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Posted by Frank IBC on Mar 18, 2008 5:36 am

23 comments, latest by joem at 9:14 am 3/18

#1 V the K at 5:58 am on Mar 18, 2008
#2 V the K at 6:16 am on Mar 18, 2008

Or maybe Sullivan's just admiring Obama's wide stance on race and religion. As Mark Steyn notes,

Sully writes:

Maybe this is a bridge too far. But in thinking about Obama for this past year, and reading the subtle critique of, say, Shelby Steele, as well as the palpable racial discomfort of some white conservatives, I have to say that it is precisely the wide span of Obama's bridge that makes me admire him. He has refused to disown Wright, while also refusing to endorse all of his message. You can call that opportunistic or expedient or cynical. You can also call it intelligent and brave and principled.

Thus Obama's use of a racist, anti-American pastor and congregation (including, presumably, dragging his children most Sundays to church to hear the disgusting rants) as a political power base becomes an act of courage and high principle.

What's strange and embarrassing is that Sully used to love President Bush in precisely this dopey, schoolgirl manner.

#3 Frank IBC at 6:19 am on Mar 18, 2008

a white charlatan like Robertson who chooses to demonize minorities in the name of Jesus

OK, I guess gays are one of the "minorities" he is talking about, but what are the others?

#4 Frank IBC at 6:22 am on Mar 18, 2008

Criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder:

-A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
-Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
-Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
-Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).

#5 Frank IBC at 6:23 am on Mar 18, 2008

#2 V the K
Or maybe Sullivan's just admiring Obama's wide stance on race and religion.

LOL!

#6 Frank IBC at 7:29 am on Mar 18, 2008

My threadline makes me think of this...

As punishment for her wicked ways, a pair of heated iron shoes were brought forth with tongs and placed before the Queen. She was then forced to step into these and dance until she fell down dead.

#7 Frank IBC at 7:43 am on Mar 18, 2008

Greenwald attacks Douthat for attacking Klein who was attacking Douthat. One thing I have learned from this: you have to read this Victor Davis Hanson post to believe it. The racial anger below the surface is quite something.

Keep dancing, Miss Sullington.

#8 Frank IBC at 7:46 am on Mar 18, 2008
#9 Right Wing Conspirator at 8:11 am on Mar 18, 2008

Anybody watching the speech?

#10 V the K at 8:12 am on Mar 18, 2008

Ace Nails the Obama Problem:

aceofspades - This gets to the heart of the problem -- (Obama) is selling himself as post-racial and wiling to "teach" both races. However, he will not tell his fellow black congregants that Jews are not the enemy, and that America did not invite 9/11. All of the "teaching" is for whites.

#11 Frank IBC at 8:16 am on Mar 18, 2008

Miss Sullington:

My apologies but I have to be in transit imminently and won't be able to watch and react to the speech in real time. But I hope to have a response as soon as I am able. It just won't be live.

#12 Right Wing Conspirator at 8:18 am on Mar 18, 2008

From ace's liveblogging of the speech...I am probably lucky not to be watching it.

#13 Frank IBC at 8:19 am on Mar 18, 2008

#8 Frank IBC

It's possible that this may just be sloppy typing.

But if not, does Miss Sullington realize that the Vietnamese leader's "last name" is actually "Ho" and not "Minh"?

#14 papijoe at 8:24 am on Mar 18, 2008

Sunday's Dirty Secret

Arriving in Washington DC during the 80's, my most difficult challenge was finding a church home. Having grown up in the Pentecostal and Methodist faith Sunday worship was a staple of my weekly routine. For almost 10 years I canvassed the nation's capitol seeking a church that would nourish my fleshly failings and remind me of what our creator expects of us as human beings. What was consistent in going from pulpit to pulpit was that ministers were more interested in political rhetoric, the endorsement of political candidates, and the denouncing of some government or community proposal, than the gospel. It was quite disheartening for many years knowing that ministers were not teaching or preaching the word of God, but that their sermons were becoming political rallies. I was stunned at the blame cast upon the White man, the racial divisive, and all the things that seemed to divide and separate us from our neighbor. Then in 1995 I attended First Baptist Church in DC where the Rev. Frank Tucker presided and my spirit finally found what it was seeking. I will never forget meeting with the Pastor prior to joining and expressing my feelings about what I was looking for in a church. I made it clear that my interest was in the word of God and not political rallies, condemnation of America, and various politicians occupying the pulpit on Sunday. He shared my concerns and promised that this wasn't the case at his church. Since being a member of Pastor Tucker's church for about 13 years, he's never disappointed my spiritual yearning. Throughout the years I've taken Whites, Muslims, Jews, and people of all walks of life to worship with me and they all have left feeling that they could join the pastor's congregation.

There are still pockets of so called black churches and mosque today that can identify with the Rev. Wright‘s lace-filled, anti-American, hypocritical sermons. During the 50's, 60's and 70's the black church was a place where blacks could gather and unite away from the harshness and brutality of racism and vicious hatred. It was a place where ministers could help their congregation express their anger, frustration, and America’s ungodliness towards their brethren. Many ministers during those tumultuous times were considered heroes and pillars of the community for they were preaching against an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. People like Jeremiah Wright are still preaching as though we’re in the 50’s or 60’s and are locked in this time warp. They refuse to elevate and celebrate the progress of America and how Presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign is evidence of that amazing paradigm shift.

It is impossible for Senator Barack Obama and his wife to have patterned Rev. Wright's church and not have embraced his teachings and vision of America. My minister does and has always had a profound impact on my outlook about life and strengthening my spirit to forgive the transgressions of this world and not to induce more hate and separation. I find it difficult to believe Senator Obama when he tells us that he was unaware of his Pastor's vicious message from the pulpit and that had he known there would have been condemnation. Many black intellectuals are still angry for what they perceive as the continuous crippling effect of racism and slavery in America on their careers. The irony is that many of their children have embraced this country, finding success and prosperity, while their parents continue to allow their wounds to be nurtured in this hopeless mindset preached from the pulpit. Michelle Obama’s expression of how for the first time she was proud of America was indicative of the influence of her Pastor.

#15 Frank IBC at 8:25 am on Mar 18, 2008

OT, but I love the way that Drudge juxtaposes the pictures of Hillary and Ms. Mills-McCartney.

#16 V the K at 8:39 am on Mar 18, 2008

I'm captioning that tomorrow.

#17 solus rex at 8:39 am on Mar 18, 2008

#9 Right Wing Conspirator
Anybody watching the speech?

Here's the full text. I have no interest in reading this, however.

#18 V the K at 8:43 am on Mar 18, 2008

Sullington gushes girlishly over the Obamessiah:


"I have never felt more convinced that this man's candidacy - not this man, his candidacy - and what he can bring us to achieve - is an historic opportunity. This was a testing; and he did not merely pass it by uttering safe bromides. He addressed the intimate, painful love he has for an imperfect and sometimes embittered man. And how that love enables him to see that man's faults and pain as well as his promise. This is what my faith is about. It is what the Gospels are about. This is a candidate who does not merely speak as a Christian. He acts like a Christian."

#19 Bloggie Psychiatrist at 8:47 am on Mar 18, 2008

Something tells me that he has issues with the boyfriend.

#20 Laura at 8:54 am on Mar 18, 2008

I'm quite sure Sullivan gets a chill up his leg when listening to obama.

#21 V the K at 8:58 am on Mar 18, 2008

He addressed the intimate, painful love he has for an imperfect and sometimes embittered man.

Sounds like the relationship between Sean Hannity and John McCain.

#22 Throbert McGee at 9:07 am on Mar 18, 2008

A the S
He addressed the intimate, painful love he has for an imperfect and sometimes embittered man.

#23 joem at 9:14 am on Mar 18, 2008

#4 Frank IBC
Criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder:

-A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
-Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
-Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
-Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).


I thought you were describing certain bloggie posters.

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