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Posted by Queequeg on Dec 20, 2007 7:32 pm

46 comments, latest by zorkmidden at 6:00 pm 12/21

#1 Queequeg at 7:39 pm on Dec 20, 2007

This is going to get very funny because Charles Johnson of LGF has been stupid enough to give Bill White credibility. Hopefully Ron Paul sues LGF and it gets shut down. I've had mild dealings with Bill White and/or his followers before (such as having to ban him for spamming his articles on our forum) and he pretty much just makes shit up. VNN in general is a mad-house, there is a guy there who believes that Ron Paul is reading his posts in order to get his advice on how to run his campaign. One of his strategies was to have guys riding around on bicyles with wiffle-bats attached to them holding campaign posters in rush-hour traffic. He also claimed to have seen an apparition of Anton LaVey in a candle flame while doing some weird jerf-off sex ritual on his birthday.

#2 Sean Gleeson at 7:39 pm on Dec 20, 2007

This could throw the Republican nomination wide open!

#3 solus rex at 7:40 pm on Dec 20, 2007

VNN in general is a mad-house

There's a shocka.

#4 solus rex at 7:43 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#2 Sean Gleeson
This could throw the Republican nomination wide open!

#5 evariste at 7:45 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#1 Queequeg
He also claimed to have seen an apparition of Anton LaVey in a candle flame while doing some weird jerf-off sex ritual on his birthday.

o_O

#6 evariste at 7:45 pm on Dec 20, 2007

Aside: someone should tell the guy who's putting up all the "Who Is Ron Paul" signs I keep seeing everywhere who Ron Paul is.

Feigned thickness aside, I actually do like the allusion. Clever.

#7 Sean Gleeson at 7:46 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#4 solus rex


That's just pure speculation, or course.

#8 evariste at 7:48 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#1 Queequeg
Hopefully Ron Paul sues LGF and it gets shut down

I would watch it with a delicious sense of schadenfreude, but that's a bit farfetched. You can say almost anything about a politician running for office in the US without consequences and without creating an actionable tort, as long as you aren't violating campaign finance laws.

#9 solus rex at 7:52 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#7 Sean Gleeson

That's just pure speculation, or course.

Heh.

#10 evariste at 7:55 pm on Dec 20, 2007

Oh!

I didn't get it, until solus said "heh", which clued me in that it was a play on words. Then I got it.

#11 zorkmidden at 9:47 pm on Dec 20, 2007

Is it true or not?

#12 zorkmidden at 9:49 pm on Dec 20, 2007

I keep picturing Ron Paul as a short, round guy, very hairy, who wears gold chains.

#13 evariste at 10:00 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#11 zorkmidden
Is it true or not?

It sounds pretty far-fetched to me that Ron Paul is some secret Nazi who meets with his Nazi friends every Tuesday in some suburban DC restaurant, but anything's possible, I guess.

#14 evariste at 10:01 pm on Dec 20, 2007

Short, yes. Round, no (more pointy). Hairy, sorta. Gold chains, nah.

#15 zorkmidden at 10:02 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#14 evariste
Short, yes. Round, no (more pointy). Hairy, sorta. Gold chains, nah.

I told you, I keep confusing him with Ron Jeremy.

#16 zorkmidden at 10:03 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#13 evariste

It sounds pretty far-fetched to me that Ron Paul is some secret Nazi who meets with his Nazi friends every Tuesday in some suburban DC restaurant, but anything's possible, I guess.

Is he a white supremacist?

#17 evariste at 10:04 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#15 zorkmidden

I told you, I keep confusing him with Ron Jeremy.

LMAO!
#16 zorkmidden

Is he a white supremacist?

I really, really doubt it, but it's possible.

#18 Memphis Bill at 11:04 pm on Dec 20, 2007

#17 evariste

LMAO!
I really, really doubt it, but it's possible.

Ron Jeremy is a Jew from Queens. Has a page on Wiki.

#19 Queequeg at 2:29 am on Dec 21, 2007

#15 zorkmidden

I told you, I keep confusing him with Ron Jeremy.

I always think of Rumpole of the Bailey.

#20 levi from queens at 7:57 am on Dec 21, 2007

Welcome back Bloggie!

#21 solus rex at 9:02 am on Dec 21, 2007
#22 solus rex at 12:58 pm on Dec 21, 2007

OTOH:

Congress and each successive administration pledge their political, financial, and military support for Israel. Yet while we call ourselves a strong ally of the Israeli people, we send billions in foreign aid every year to some Muslim states that many Israelis regard as enemies. From the Israeli point of view, many of the same Islamic nations we fund with our tax dollars want to destroy the Jewish state. Many average Israelis and American Jews see America as hypocritically hedging its bets... It is time to challenge the notion that it is our job to broker peace in the Middle East and every other troubled region across the globe. America can and should use every diplomatic means at our disposal to end the violence in the West Bank, but we should draw the line at any further entanglement. Third-party outsiders cannot impose political solutions in Palestine or anywhere else. Peace can be achieved only when self-determination operates freely in all nations. "Peace plans" imposed by outsiders or the UN cause resentment and seldom produce lasting peace.


RuPaul does say a lot of the right things. I guess he's just not the right man to deliver his own message. Plus, he doesn't have a vaguest experience of actually running anything.

#23 evariste at 12:59 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#22 solus rex
Plus, he doesn't have a vaguest experience of actually running anything.

Oh, come on. Didn't he run one of those vagina examination parlors?

#24 Frank IBC at 1:02 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#19 Queequeg

I always think of Rumpole of the Bailey.

Heh... that's the way a Spanish-speaker would say it.

#25 evariste at 1:04 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#19 Queequeg

I always think of Rumpole of the Bailey.

I love the Rumpole books! I just Googled and apparently "Rumpole of the Bailey" was a TV show. I had no idea!

#26 Peter Gemma at 1:08 pm on Dec 21, 2007

I ran those dinners -- Ron Paul was never there ... nor did we run
some sort of neo-nazi meeting: we had academics and activists of
national repute. In the audience were people who work in gov't,
businessmen, and grass roots types too. If Bill White ever came to
the meetings, he didn't use his real name -- he doesn't even get the
name of the restaurant correctly. White is so obviously playing the
media -- anyone on the right does not pay one moment's notice to him,
but the media is always on the lookout for kooks like him.

#27 evariste at 1:14 pm on Dec 21, 2007

Thanks, Peter!

#28 Frank IBC at 1:15 pm on Dec 21, 2007

So the neo-nazi event with Ron Paul was held at the restaurant of the correct name?

#29 zorkmidden at 1:18 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#10 evariste
Oh!

I didn't get it, until solus said "heh", which clued me in that it was a play on words. Then I got it.

Too deep for me.

#30 evariste at 1:18 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#29 zorkmidden

Too deep for me.

LMAO!

#31 evariste at 1:18 pm on Dec 21, 2007

That was very clever.

#32 Frank IBC at 1:20 pm on Dec 21, 2007

At first I thought that was one of those fancy "Rabbit" corkscrews.

#33 zorkmidden at 1:28 pm on Dec 21, 2007

I want to post this funny bit from the latest Christopher Hitchens article in VF. The article is about eccentric Englishmen and this has me laughing still:

Sir George Reres-by-Sitwell (son of Sir Sitwell Sitwell) maintained a country retreat named Renishaw Hall. A sign at the entrance made the following heartfelt request:

"I must ask anyone entering the house never to contradict me or differ from me in any way, as it interferes with the functioning of the gastric juices and prevents my sleeping at night."

I wanted to substitute "blog" for "house" in the last sentence and make it into an RT but it's too long :-)

#34 evariste at 1:29 pm on Dec 21, 2007

LOL! I love English eccentrics.

#35 solus rex at 1:34 pm on Dec 21, 2007

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#36 levi from queens at 1:35 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#33 zorkmidden
I want to post this funny bit from the latest Christopher Hitchens article in VF.

MM today had a post on Hitch where she dubbed him Xopher.

#37 evariste at 1:38 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#36 levi from queens

MM today had a post on Hitch where she dubbed him Xopher.

Hah!

#38 jesus at 3:45 pm on Dec 21, 2007

Not that it matters to many, but there are a few who would like to better understand the strange happenings recently regarding Neo-Nazi Bill White and his interest against Ron Paul. The reasons for this take shape in April of 2007 when Bill White held a protest against John Hagee's "Christians United for Israel" (CUFI) gathering in Tulsa Oklahoma on April 16, 2007. This was particularly damaging against CUFI and threatened destabilization of its huge 50 million member support group. Shortly after this event, politically powerful leaders in congress, like Jane Harman, introduced legislation (H.R. 1955) on April 19, 2007. The legislation was inspired by Bill White's protest against Israel's largest American support base and its purpose is centered around shutting down White's web site, and others like him.

A few months passed and White again gained national press attention by introducing the idea of "Execute the Jena 6." This campaign directed by White encouraged people to put symbolic hangman's nooses in public places. This enraged a lot of people and generated a backlash against White.

When the pressure grew too high, White mysteriously took down his web site and it has been reduced to a single page ever since. White states that he plans to have it back up soon, but he has been saying this for months. There is little difficulty in setting up a web site, although he makes endless excuses about why it is not back to its former status. White is waiting for something before he does...
It appears White is waiting on the outcome of the legislation that sailed through the house of representatives on October 23, 2007 with 404 Ayes, 6 Nays, 22 Present/Not Voting. One of the persons who did not vote was Ron Paul. It is likely to be put to a vote by the Senate soon and then off to the President to be signed. In order to prevent this backlash from damaging White financially or worse, he opted to straddle the fence in his loyalties to National Socialism by coming out against Ron Paul. This move is designed to shelter Bill White in the future from his former enemies, like Jane Harmon, now turned friends. He helped them to slander Ron Paul and implicate Paul as having close ties to White Nationalists. In return for White's propaganda against Ron Paul, he may be left alone when the legislation becomes law allowing the government to charge White and others like him under the legal umbrella created by the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.

#39 evariste at 3:56 pm on Dec 21, 2007

Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act

VRAHTPA? That's a terrible name for a law. Can't it be named something like CAN-SPAM or PROTECT or USA PATRIOT.

#40 solus rex at 3:57 pm on Dec 21, 2007

Why would Christians consider a nazi protest damaging?

#41 levi from queens at 4:23 pm on Dec 21, 2007

Just a guess -- but jesus may not actually be Jesus.

#42 Twinkletoes at 4:41 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#13 evariste

It sounds pretty far-fetched to me that Ron Paul is some secret Nazi who meets with his Nazi friends every Tuesday in some suburban DC restaurant, but anything's possible, I guess.

Is he a white supremacist?

Think about this for a minute. U.S. Congressman Ron Paul has been re-elected to office nine times - by landslide margins. He has had his writings published for over 25 years. As far as I know his views on the race issue has never come up in any of times he has run for his district seat. The neocons in the GOP hate him. He doesn't go along with D.C. expansionism. Do you think for one minute that if he were a white supremacist he would not have disappeared from Congress twenty years ago? Or ever got elected in the first place? Give me a break.

#43 RIP Ford at 4:58 pm on Dec 21, 2007

This thread should be full of fun for the next couple of months.

#44 solus rex at 5:00 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#43 RIP Ford
This thread should be full of fun for the next couple of months.

When Paulettes attack.

#45 RIP Ford at 5:08 pm on Dec 21, 2007

LOL!

#46 zorkmidden at 6:00 pm on Dec 21, 2007

#43 RIP Ford
This thread should be full of fun for the next couple of months.

As long as my Ron Paul/Ron Jeremy confusion doesn't bother them, I don't mind.

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