If he's smart, he'll run in the next gubernatorial election in Illinois. And after he's completed at least one term as governor, THEN run for president.
If he's smart, he'll run in the next gubernatorial election in Illinois. And after he's completed at least one term as governor, THEN run for president.
Throwing him in the Oval Office would be like throwing a baby in a shark tank.
I was undecided up to now, but forty seconds of YouTube has decided me: There's a sword at Obama's throat. Hillary grabs the sword and brandishes it, gloating. Obama reaches out, takes the sword from her hand, and runs her through. What an aphoristic moment. Or as the YouTube commenters put it, PWNED.
In the larger context, this was a grievous unforced error on Hillary's part. In my eyes, her crowing reaction damages her as much as Obama's comeback benefits him. All she needed to do was listen politely as Obama squirmed, and the moment was hers. Instead, she reacted like a comic book supervillain and handed a superhero moment to Obama. I don't know who's got an exact count, but I suspect her team this season has racked up the most errors, both forced and unforced. In sport, that has a lot of significance. In politics, I think it's about to.
I thought you couldn't stand him; and you knew of him as a state Senator. Didn't you say he was way too far left for you?
Are you just making shit up based on assumptions again? I had no idea he even existed until he ran for election to the federal Senate. When did I say he was "way too far left for" me? And why would disagreeing with his politics mean I couldn't laugh at him doing something funny, or mean that I couldn't predict he'll get the nomination if he keeps it up?
Are you just making shit up based on assumptions again? I had no idea he even existed until he ran for election to the federal Senate. When did I say he was "way too far left for" me? And why would disagreeing with his politics mean I couldn't laugh at him doing something funny, or mean that I couldn't predict he'll get the nomination if he keeps it up?
Ev,
I don't want to dig up through posts 2-3 years back, but I very much remember you attacking him for being too far left. Besides, he represented a Chicago district and you live in the Metro area, so you certainly could have read about him in the news or in a local newscast.
OK, bigel, you're right. Despite the fact that I habitually completely ignore state politics and politicians as incredibly boring. Obviously I'm too addled to remember my own opinions of Obama, which I apparently held very strongly 2-3 years back. Thank you for letting me know what my opinions used to be. I seem to have woken up with an erased memory.
My take? Bloomberg is a way more plausible dark horse than the Gorebot, who is rather enjoying his role as a secular saint. Plus, I just can't take Al seriously as a candidate, no matter how many more chins he grows.
#28solus rex after dark
at 3:24 pm on Dec 14, 2007
I dunno. As one indicator, SNL is pretty mainstream, and their ridicule is more or less along the lines of ours (while they tenderly and reverently kiss Obama's ass).
the guy we probably shoulda went with
Tell you the truth, I tend to feel the same way. But now is not then.
#29solus rex after dark
at 3:31 pm on Dec 14, 2007
Bush's perspicacity and aptitude were no less obvious in 2000 than they have become since.
Bush's perspicacity and aptitude were no less obvious in 2000 than they have become since.
No matter. Against Gore he was a shinning knight, and against Kerry, the last frantic grasp at sanity.
Had Kerry been elected I would have given serious thought to emigration, or at a minimum a retreat to a far moutain redoubt. I've found one of those if it comes that...perhaps my very own Ruby Ridge. The very idea a lying traitor poser self-centered pseudo hippie from the late 60's-early 70's could achieve the Presidency would have brought Carter's malfeasance to total fruition.
It is against federal law for me to say what I'd like done to Kerry and all of his fellow travelers. I didn't think it was possible to find a candidate who'd make Gore look good, by comparison, but the DNC did it! Gore's a agenda-bot, but Kerry's a fecal splotch on the fabric of America.
Given the above, from my perspective, Kevin's prognostication is quite possible, stupendously foolish as it might be overall.
Did I mention I am now feverishly stabbing a Kevin doll with long hat pins? ;-)
Hey, man, don't stab the messenger's voodoo doll!
#34solus rex after dark
at 4:30 pm on Dec 14, 2007
As someone put it back then, "Gore is a student who, being assigned a 6-page paper, writes a 10-page paper he copied from the encyclopedia, and hopes the professor doesn't notice. Bush writes a 4 1/2-page double-spaced with 2-inch margins one, and hopes the professor doesn't notice."
I didn't see it that way. And in retrospect, still don't.
You just didn't have enough experience with the trail of tears Gore left behind. The man is a total fraud. Bushy stone drunk is better, and I don't particularly like him either...but Gore, I feel to vomit.
That's my complaint...20 years plus of a choice between vomit, hurl or homicidal thoughts.
#36solus rex after dark
at 5:04 pm on Dec 14, 2007
You just didn't have enough experience with the trail of tears Gore left behind.
You just didn't have enough experience with the trail of tears Gore left behind.
That could be it.
It is I assure you. His impact on OMB'c Circular A-76 is still being felt, even today, and costing taxpayers more money not less every day. He is the senior enabler of process over product in government.
Hmm, in the end, will it come down to Al Gore vs Newt Gingrich?
There was some interesting commentary on NPR, tonight, amazingly enough from an NYT columnist, who said he wished Gingrich was in simply because there would be some hard policy out there, instead of platitudes.
#39solus rex after dark
at 5:36 pm on Dec 14, 2007
Obama has good judgement. That far outways experience. He will make a fine president.
And you base your assessment of Obama's judgement on what specific demonstrtions of same?
Not that it matters much, since until we clean up Congress, and demand performance not posturing from it, who is President is immaterial for the most part.
48 comments, latest by Dances With Typos at 10:09 am 11/23
Well, I thought it was damn funny. If he keeps this up, he's gonna get the nomination.
But not the presidency.
He's like a defective tootsie pop, a delicious exterior but with a missing tootsie roll center.
If he's smart, he'll run in the next gubernatorial election in Illinois. And after he's completed at least one term as governor, THEN run for president.
Throwing him in the Oval Office would be like throwing a baby in a shark tank.
I think he has lots of potential.
But he's just not ready this year.
Frighteningly enough.
A reader writes Sully:
I still stand by my earlier prediction that none of the clowns running for President circa Sept 07 will ever be in the Oval Office.
Bloomberg, then?
I wonder how many of the folks who vote for Ron Paul over at ToP are actually Ron Paul supporters.
He's like a defective tootsie pop with a missing tootsie roll center.
Kind of like the litterbox when the kitties are on vacation.
I was surprised to see Alan Keyes in there, again.
Not in the litterbox, obviously, in the Republican lineup. However small the distinction may be.
LOL!
What could possibly be worse than those clowns...
Shouldn't he have fired his hairdresser at least five years ago?
I thought you couldn't stand him; and you knew of him as a state Senator. Didn't you say he was way too far left for you?
I thought you couldn't stand him; and you knew of him as a state Senator. Didn't you say he was way too far left for you?
Are you just making shit up based on assumptions again? I had no idea he even existed until he ran for election to the federal Senate. When did I say he was "way too far left for" me? And why would disagreeing with his politics mean I couldn't laugh at him doing something funny, or mean that I couldn't predict he'll get the nomination if he keeps it up?
Are you just making shit up based on assumptions again? I had no idea he even existed until he ran for election to the federal Senate. When did I say he was "way too far left for" me? And why would disagreeing with his politics mean I couldn't laugh at him doing something funny, or mean that I couldn't predict he'll get the nomination if he keeps it up?
Ev,
I don't want to dig up through posts 2-3 years back, but I very much remember you attacking him for being too far left. Besides, he represented a Chicago district and you live in the Metro area, so you certainly could have read about him in the news or in a local newscast.
OK, bigel, you're right. Despite the fact that I habitually completely ignore state politics and politicians as incredibly boring. Obviously I'm too addled to remember my own opinions of Obama, which I apparently held very strongly 2-3 years back. Thank you for letting me know what my opinions used to be. I seem to have woken up with an erased memory.
I love Obama. He makes my enormous, horrifying ears look dainty and refined.
Frank, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
Give that man a cee-gar!
Ladeez and genteelpersons..I give you the next POTUS....ALGORE!
SRSLY? No way.
I think he's too much of a joke to have any traction now.
A joke to you and me and Ev, perhaps.
To most of America he's a Nobel prize winner, lover of the Earth and the guy we probably shoulda went with and maybe we should now....
God, I hope Kevin's wrong about this.
My take? Bloomberg is a way more plausible dark horse than the Gorebot, who is rather enjoying his role as a secular saint. Plus, I just can't take Al seriously as a candidate, no matter how many more chins he grows.
I dunno. As one indicator, SNL is pretty mainstream, and their ridicule is more or less along the lines of ours (while they tenderly and reverently kiss Obama's ass).
Tell you the truth, I tend to feel the same way. But now is not then.
Bush's perspicacity and aptitude were no less obvious in 2000 than they have become since.
No matter. Against Gore he was a shinning knight, and against Kerry, the last frantic grasp at sanity.
Had Kerry been elected I would have given serious thought to emigration, or at a minimum a retreat to a far moutain redoubt. I've found one of those if it comes that...perhaps my very own Ruby Ridge. The very idea a lying traitor poser self-centered pseudo hippie from the late 60's-early 70's could achieve the Presidency would have brought Carter's malfeasance to total fruition.
It is against federal law for me to say what I'd like done to Kerry and all of his fellow travelers. I didn't think it was possible to find a candidate who'd make Gore look good, by comparison, but the DNC did it! Gore's a agenda-bot, but Kerry's a fecal splotch on the fabric of America.
Given the above, from my perspective, Kevin's prognostication is quite possible, stupendously foolish as it might be overall.
Give that man a cee-gar!
Ladeez and genteelpersons..I give you the next POTUS....ALGORE!
Did I mention I am now feverishly stabbing a Kevin doll with long hat pins? ;-)
Did I mention I am now feverishly stabbing a Kevin doll with long hat pins? ;-)
Hey, man, don't stab the messenger's voodoo doll!
As someone put it back then, "Gore is a student who, being assigned a 6-page paper, writes a 10-page paper he copied from the encyclopedia, and hopes the professor doesn't notice. Bush writes a 4 1/2-page double-spaced with 2-inch margins one, and hopes the professor doesn't notice."
You just didn't have enough experience with the trail of tears Gore left behind. The man is a total fraud. Bushy stone drunk is better, and I don't particularly like him either...but Gore, I feel to vomit.
That's my complaint...20 years plus of a choice between vomit, hurl or homicidal thoughts.
It is I assure you. His impact on OMB'c Circular A-76 is still being felt, even today, and costing taxpayers more money not less every day. He is the senior enabler of process over product in government.
Hmm, in the end, will it come down to Al Gore vs Newt Gingrich?
There was some interesting commentary on NPR, tonight, amazingly enough from an NYT columnist, who said he wished Gingrich was in simply because there would be some hard policy out there, instead of platitudes.
Ugh.
Ugh.
I definitely won't say I like the idea...but he does keep making noises about jumping in. He should shut up and sit down.
Obama has good judgement. That far outways experience. He will make a fine president.
I hope his judgment outways your bad spelling.
Obama has good judgement. That far outways experience. He will make a fine president.
And you base your assessment of Obama's judgement on what specific demonstrtions of same?
Not that it matters much, since until we clean up Congress, and demand performance not posturing from it, who is President is immaterial for the most part.
Way!
No whey!
this is tight. look at you fools now!
Yeah, we committed the unpardonable sin of underestimating the stupidity of the American voter.