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Posted by bigel on Jun 29, 2007 8:17 am

27 comments, latest by evariste at 6:34 pm 6/29

#1 levi from queens at 8:43 am on Jun 29, 2007

I think Mr. Sullivan understated the collapse of the European pharmaceuticals industries. Once Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, and Britain were world leaders. I would bet that close to half of the European pharmaceutical innovation still forthcoming is from tiny non-socialist Switzerland.

#2 Throbert McGee at 8:46 am on Jun 29, 2007

I would bet that close to half of the European pharmaceutical innovation still forthcoming is from tiny non-socialist Switzerland.

Ironic, if true, because a lot of the homeopathic sugar water sold in the U.S. is of Swiss provenance.

#3 bigel at 9:11 am on Jun 29, 2007

#1 levi from queens
I think Mr. Sullivan understated the collapse of the European pharmaceuticals industries. Once Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, and Britain were world leaders. I would bet that close to half of the European pharmaceutical innovation still forthcoming is from tiny non-socialist Switzerland.

Living in NJ, where much of the pharma research is done, I can vouch for all the European researchers who have relocated here.

I just wish they would leave and take their Communist Jew-hatred with them.

#4 Frank IBC at 9:13 am on Jun 29, 2007

Unfortunately they can't leave without taking their expertise with them, too.

#5 bigel at 9:14 am on Jun 29, 2007

#4 Frank IBC
Unfortunately they can't leave without taking their expertise with them, too.

I don't care. America can do fine without them and their miserable politics and their even more miserable anti-Semitic bigotry.


#6 Frank IBC at 9:15 am on Jun 29, 2007

You've met and conversed with all of them, I guess?

#7 bigel at 9:20 am on Jun 29, 2007

#6 Frank IBC
You've met and conversed with all of them, I guess?

Enough of them to know, let's put it that way.....


#8 Frank IBC at 9:26 am on Jun 29, 2007

Ocillococcinum
Ingredients: Less than 1 molecule of Duck Liver

#9 Throbert McGee at 9:36 am on Jun 29, 2007

I'm pretty sure that Oscillococcinum is nearly always sold in a "200C" dilution, which works out to a statistically expected 1 part duck liver per google4 parts water or alcohol. (And a google raised to the 4th power far exceeds the roughly estimated number of quarks in the entire Universe.)

#10 Frank IBC at 9:38 am on Jun 29, 2007

If I ran the FDA, I would ban even listing any ingredient that is present in less than 1 molecule.

Thus, the ingredients for Ocillococcinum would say...

"Water".

#11 Frank IBC at 9:41 am on Jun 29, 2007

The most characteristic and controversial principle of homeopathy is that the potency of a remedy can be enhanced (and the side-effects diminished) by dilution, in a procedure known as dynamization or potentization. Liquids are progressively diluted (with water, or alcohol) and shaken by ten hard strikes against an elastic body (succussion). For this purpose, Hahnemann had a saddlemaker construct a special wooden striking board covered in leather on one side and stuffed with horsehair. This can be viewed at the Hahnemann Museum in Stuttgart.[35] Insoluble solids, such as Quartz and Oyster shell, are diluted by grinding with lactose (trituration). The original serial dilutions by Hahnemann were performed using a 1 part in 100 or centesimal scale, or 1 part in 50,000 or Quintamillesimal (LM or Q potencies). Higher 'potencies' are considered to be stronger 'deep-acting' remedies.

The dilution factor at each stage is traditionally 1:10 ('D' or 'X' potencies) or 1:100 ('C' potencies). Hahnemann advocated 30C dilutions for most purposes, i.e. dilution by a factor of 10030 = 1060. As Avogadro's number is only 6.02 × 1023 particles/mole, the chance of any molecule of the original substance being present in a 15C solution is small, and it is extremely unlikely that one molecule of the original solution would be present in a 30C dilution. For a perspective on these numbers, there are in the order of 1032 molecules of water in an Olympic size swimming pool; to expect to get one molecule of a 15C solution, one would need to take 1% of the volume of such a pool, or roughly 25 metric tons of water. Furthermore, 1CC of a solute diluted to a 30C dilution would be diluted into a volume of solvent (water) equal to that of a cube of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 meters per side, or about 105 light years. Thus, even homeopathic remedies of a high "potency" contain, with overwhelming probability, only water. Practitioners of homeopathy believe that this water retains some 'essential property' of one of the substances that it has contacted in the past. This theory was tested and elaborated on by G. Resch and V. Gutmann in their book entitled Scientific Foundations of Homoeopathy.

Water will have been in contact with millions of different substances in its history. According to this molecular paradigm, any glass of water must be regarded as an extreme dilution of almost any agent you care to mention. Thus, critics argue that by drinking water one receives homeopathic treatment for every imaginable condition.[36][37] Proponents of homeopathy are unable to accept the molecular paradigm as a complete account of life phenomena and therapeutics. They believe that the methodical dilution of a particular substance, beginning with a 10% solution and working downwards, produces a therapeutically active 'remedy', in contrast to regular water which is therapeutically inert. However, in terms of chemistry, a dilution of anything at 30C is identical to water.

#12 Madison Grant at 10:21 am on Jun 29, 2007

#7 bigel


Enough of them to know, let's put it that way.....



The unifying factor, it appears, was that these unfortunate Nordic Europeans were exposed to you for more than 10 seconds.

#13 bigel at 10:45 am on Jun 29, 2007

#12 Madison Grant

The unifying factor, it appears, was that these unfortunate Nordic Europeans were exposed to you for more than 10 seconds.

You know, the minute you get a European talking about the Iraq war or anything on foreign policy, they're spouting off against Joooos inside of 60 seconds.


#14 Frank IBC at 10:50 am on Jun 29, 2007

So Nordic Europeans = Jews?

It all makes sense now.

#15 Jeff at 11:17 am on Jun 29, 2007

Are you dense, Frank? He's saying that the Europeans he knows don't like Jews. Where the hell did you get your equation?

#16 solus rex at 11:20 am on Jun 29, 2007

Can't you read, gay nazi? I said "rhetorical".

#17 TalkinKamell at 11:35 am on Jun 29, 2007

Nordic European Lesbians agree---Adriana Sullington had a rare lucid moment and only pinheads blame everything on the Joooooos.

#18 bigel at 11:44 am on Jun 29, 2007

#15 Jeff
Are you dense, Frank? He's saying that the Europeans he knows don't like Jews. Where the hell did you get your equation?

BDS = bigel derangement syndrome

#19 RIP Ford at 12:08 pm on Jun 29, 2007

#18 bigel


BDS = bigel derangement syndrome


Is that anything alike EDS, European Derangement Syndrome?
Those with glass vaginas shouldn't throw stones bigel.

#20 Frank IBC at 12:09 pm on Jun 29, 2007

Oh boy... Bigel has a groupie! :)

#21 floranista at 12:29 pm on Jun 29, 2007

Brother.

#22 סטרמי Stormi at 4:23 pm on Jun 29, 2007

Is it August 22nd yet?

#23 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 5:30 pm on Jun 29, 2007

#15 Jeff
Are you dense, Frank? He's saying that the Europeans he knows don't like Jews. Where the hell did you get your equation?
Sounds more like the Europeans he knows don't like bigel.

For some strange reason.

#24 סטרמי Stormi at 5:32 pm on Jun 29, 2007

#15 Jeff
Are you dense, Frank? He's saying that the Europeans he knows don't like Jews. Where the hell did you get your equation?

We don't believe in equations here at bloggie, because Math is Hard.

#25 franco cbi at 5:34 pm on Jun 29, 2007

She's squeezing the Charmin again! :)

#26 franco cbi at 6:09 pm on Jun 29, 2007

#15 Jeff
Are you dense, Frank?

No, sadly my fat/muscle ratio is currently such that I am significantly lighter than water. :(

#27 evariste at 6:34 pm on Jun 29, 2007

#26 franco cbi


No, sadly my fat/muscle ratio is currently such that I am significantly lighter than water. :(

A pound of water weighs more than a pound of Frank? Does this apply even when you're asleep?

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