discarded lies - tuesday, february 9, 2010 10:53 am zst
circumsized but not circumscribed
evariste
Bye, Wagdi. Don't Come Back!
Imam Wagdi Ghoneim has left the United States, thankfully.
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- An Orange County mosque leader from Egypt who had allegedly given speeches that could be considered to support terrorist organizations has left the United States, authorities said.

Wagdy Ghoneim, who was the imam at the Islamic Institute of Orange County, reached an agreement with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to depart voluntarily, avoiding deportation in exchange for admitting he was in the country in violation of his immigration status, said agency spokeswoman Virginia Kice.

Ghoneim departed from Los Angeles International Airport early Monday and transferred in New York onto a flight bound for Qatar.

``Many people are extremely sad and disappointed in the system,'' said Valerie Curtis-Diop, Ghoneim's attorney. ``They're apprehensive because, if this can happen to a spiritual leader, they wonder who will be the next target.''

By giving up his two-month immigration fight voluntarily, Ghoneim is eligible to reapply for entry into the country.
Don't call us, we'll call you.
filed under children of ishmael on Jan 05, 2005 6:20 pm
115 comments, latest by Ras at 5:46 pm 1/20
#1 SoCalJustice at 6:53 pm on Jan 05, 2005
His family, including his wife and seven children, also must leave. U.S. Immigration Judge D.D. Sitgraves approved the agreement, which bars Ghoneim's return for 10 years. (LA Times, reg. req'd).

He won't be back.

Curtis-Diop: "They're apprehensive because, if this can happen to a spiritual leader, they wonder who will be the next target.''

What a scumbag lawyer. She knows full well what brother man has been preaching.

As for the "spiritrual leader" bullshit, he's lucky he didn't get the Yassin treatment. Life's just not that fair.
#2 SoCalJustice at 6:56 pm on Jan 05, 2005
The ridiculous Wagdy write up at Islam Online at least comes with a nifty color photo of the creep.
#3 zorkmidden at 7:03 pm on Jan 05, 2005
SoCalJustice, yes, that's the part that got to me too, "who will be next." We have this myth perpetuating now, associating the Bush administration with the scare tactic of "who will be next." It's a lot of BS.
#4 SoCalJustice at 7:10 pm on Jan 05, 2005
I know - it's sad.

The person who will be "next" is the next jihadi who raises money for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, incites American-based followers to engage in violent (and financial) jihad, and overstays his visa - just like Wagdy.

#5 monkeyweather at 8:05 pm on Jan 05, 2005

they wonder who will be the next target.

Oh cry me a friggin river already. In Muslim countries they chop off heads, hands, feet....they burn down churches and abduct/torture/kill/rape people who cross them (or simply cross their path!) We give them nice plane tickets home with peanuts and a blankie.

Next? We get a "next"?

Oh goody....I pick CAIR

#6 floranista at 8:12 pm on Jan 05, 2005
You hit the nail on the head as usual, monkeyweather.
The lawyer is another delusional LLL, reminds me of Lynne Stewart who was sneaking messages out of prison for her illustrious client, the blind sheik al-somebody, to his fervent followers. I believe she is under investigation right now. And BTW, what is it with these leftist women lawyers? Grrr
#7 Moustafa at 10:31 am on Jul 22, 2005
This website is the most stupidest website in the hole networld. It is pointless nad stupid. First of all Sheik Wagdy Ghoniem is a great person. And he was taken in jail for absoulitly no reason. Jut because he was a Muslim that said the truth and nothing but the truth. Even the FBI said we have no problems with him. But at the end he would have won the case and probably could have sued, and won. But he is a person that declared his whole life to Islam, and the teaching of islam. He was innocent, and this website is the most stupidest, and most disrespectiful website i have ever checked out.

Moustafa Mohamed
#8 Moustafa at 10:35 am on Jul 22, 2005
I dont think that Wagdi Ghoniem wants to come back. Allah has granted him with a much better life and people than there are in the usa. Atleaset here he is free to do what he wants. And wont be put in jail with a bad treatment. He got sick in jail and no body helped him but his friend Abduljabar. Not even an ambulance was called for help. This website just says all those staff about the most respectfull person, just because they live in america, and they dont want their citizen chip taken away from them. So they lie and dont say the truth. So fuck u.
#9 Moustasha at 11:15 am on Jul 22, 2005
Fuck u tooo u r teh most stupidest nad disrespectiful nad dumm. I hate americans hwo do things for no reasons, even when the FBI sayes that tooo.

Dont take awaye my citzen chip tooo espesialy if u dont lie and tell teh truht just bcaues u live in america.
Can someone run Moustasha backwards through the dialecticizer so I can understand what she wrote?
#11 Jefe at 11:24 am on Jul 22, 2005

But he is a person that declared his whole life to Islam, and the teaching of islam. He was innocent, and this website is the most stupidest, and most disrespectiful website i have ever checked out.

I see Moustafa didn't learn much from his shining example. Moustasha, on the other hand, he's the shiznit.

#12 Fay at 11:26 am on Jul 22, 2005
Two new nominees for RT's:

the most stupidest website in the hole networld.

and:

Dont take awaye my citzen chip


#13 Moustasha at 11:28 am on Jul 22, 2005
Turning now to sports...
and an evil video tape that kills anyone who watches it in seven days. It's true. We're all in danger. There's an alien force that's trying prevent you from knowing the truth.
Correction, there really is no danger. Actually, I didn't really mean anything I just said. Yes, I did. Every word of it. Everyone watching this could be dead in a week.
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#14 cba at 11:30 am on Jul 22, 2005
Is that you, Frank?
#15 Frank IBC at 11:33 am on Jul 22, 2005
Well, I get back from lunch, and everyone's dead here.

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#16 aridog at 11:47 am on Jul 22, 2005

I just love it. Immigrants who come here, by whatever means, and then lecture us about what is wrong with America and carry on seditious activities. Rather than carve out success for themselves, they complain about that of others, and insist it be handed to them on a silver plate. WTF. Doors don't swing both ways where they come from? So leave already.

When I go to another country, I bend over backwards to learn as much as I can about the culture, language, and customs, and try to adapt and incorporate some of it in to mine, at least while I am there. I loath the image of "Ugly American," whether here or abroad. So now we have "ugly Muslims" of Arab or Oriental ilk arriving here to do the opposite, and do seditious things they know full damn well would get them summarily executed in most of their home states?

I no longer avoid carrying a beer bottle when outside in my yard, something I used to do, among other things, in deference to the beliefs of my Lebanese neighbors and what their children would observe. Now the Lebanese are moved out and the replacements...well, to avoid another rant, I don't give a shit. Same faiths, same middel eastern origins, but totally lacking in any couth, wholly self absorbed assholes for the majority I have met. Why are they here at all?
#17 AM42 at 11:50 am on Jul 22, 2005
LOL Moustasha (if that is your real name : )

This website just says all those staff about the most respectfull person, just because they live in america, and they dont want their citizen chip taken away from them. So they lie and dont say the truth. So fuck u

Oh crap, he's on to us.

How did he find out about our mind control "citizen chip" implants?

#18 Frank IBC at 12:03 pm on Jul 22, 2005
Aridog -

I'm guessing that if some Wahhabis moved in next door, you'd become a full-time nudist. :)
#19 papijoe at 12:17 pm on Jul 22, 2005
gymnast!
#20 aridog at 12:42 pm on Jul 22, 2005

if some Wahhabis moved in next door, you'd become a full-time nudist. :)


You bet...and my porcine fish belly white body would be a shocker...

our mind control "citizen chip" implants?


Damn good idea...plus you could "ID" a person by waving a wand over the chip location.

#21 Dances With Typos at 1:05 pm on Jul 22, 2005
Alpha;

"Awaiting further orders from great MASTER(?) Zorkmidden."

Geez, Zorkie is gonna be mad at you!
#22 Dances With Typos at 1:08 pm on Jul 22, 2005
If this Waggedy Goniff was in the country illegally, there should never have been a trial, and no LLLLawyer to cry for him.

He should have been picked up, stuffed in a sack, and tossed on a plane.
#23 AM42 at 1:24 pm on Jul 22, 2005
DWT,

Dont' blame me... blame the chip!
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Boil on the Bum, Pox...
#26 Patent Medicine at 3:05 pm on Jul 22, 2005
Who's got wind?
#27 Ayatollah at 5:52 am on Feb 05, 2006
Chopps heads off...when was that...was it when your grandmother gave birth to a Nazi or was it in the Crusades time when Christians reached their barbarism in human history?

Oh come off it! I'll tell whats next you loads going to hell!!!!
#28 Dances With Typos at 6:35 am on Feb 05, 2006
Geez, a voice of stupidity on a dead thread.

The Crusades were a defensive war, started to try to reciver the Holy Lands from invading moslem hordes, who raped and murdered their way across the Middle East and well into Europe before they were stopped, and turned back. No amount of islamic fake history will ever change that.

Naziism was an ugliness that, though destroyed in Europe and the rest of the world, is still slavishly imitated by islam, who takes to its black heart any ideology of evil and cruelty, because they fit so well with the ideology of evil and cruelty that is mohammedanism, itself.
#29 DMoT at 6:37 am on Feb 05, 2006
#27 Ayatollah
Chopps heads off...when was that...was it when your grandmother gave birth to a Nazi or was it in the Crusades time when Christians reached their barbarism in human history?

Oh come off it! I'll tell whats next you loads going to hell!!!!

This guy's definitely a Pakistani.
#30 alia at 8:14 pm on May 31, 2006
everyday the americans prove to me that they are the most ignorant, brain-washed people alive. america has succeeded to distort the image of the Russians before through media and it is trying to do that to the Arabs and muslims,And everybody blindly believes this image and supports. but has any of you even attempted to ask themselves if its true or not or your brains have been washed to disappearance. Does it make any sense that any religion that calls for people to believe in god will 'torture/rape or burn people who cross them'? Please get some education.

you people are too lazy to know the facts for yourselves, so u just believe ur media blindly. how can u call yourselves free or liberated when u have this veil upon your Eyes, minds and hearts??

Even if u hate Arabs and muslims, disrespect and insult is the most ignorant way to express it and shows the disrespect to yourselves.


#31 Lewis at 8:18 pm on May 31, 2006

Even if u hate Arabs and muslims, disrespect and insult is the most ignorant way to express it and shows the disrespect to yourselves.


The proper Muslim way to express your hate, of course, is through killing.

Disrespect and insult are for the kufr.

#32 Lyana at 8:19 pm on May 31, 2006
alia, does what I see on muslims doing to other muslims (and unbelievers) on al-Jazeera count as American brainwashing?
#33 evariste at 8:24 pm on May 31, 2006

Does it make any sense that any religion that calls for people to believe in god will 'torture/rape or burn people who cross them'? Please get some education.

Muslims in Pakistan, Iran, India, and elsewhere attack Muslim women with acid, scarring their faces for life, if they spurn their marriage proposals. Go tell this to them, since, you know, apparently they need to learn this. We're not the ones who need an education in Islam. Islam says that women of a defeated war enemy are "booty" for the Muslim warriors. That means they can be kept as slaves and raped. Show me any other religion that says that?

#34 Fay at 8:29 pm on May 31, 2006

is trying to do that to the Arabs and muslims

No trying necessary,alia.

All is revealed.

By their actions shall you know them.

#35 Sojourner at 8:38 pm on May 31, 2006
alia,

Everyday our mainstream media kisses your asses and doesn't tell us the full truth. But the msm is no longer fooling us and we have more access to real news.

No, we don't hate Arabs and Muslims, just the extremists who gruesomely murder innocent people.

You want to defend them? Do you defend terrorist groups? Do you defend those who danced in the streets and passed out candy to children on 9-11-2001? Or praise Allah when Israeli civilians are killed?

What's YOUR take? America deserved it? Do you defend terrorist organizations who kill innocent people, and then blame America when civilian casualties die because terrorist demons use them as cover and hide behind them?

What? What???

If you believe this garbage, you're the blind one - no, you're a liar, you can't be THAT blind.

Where are you from? An arab land? A muslim land? Do you support honor killings for females suspected of "sins"? Or even found guilty of sins??

Do you think they should be killed for their sins?

We have every right to question such EVIL behaviours. And while the US isn't perfect it's the best country in the world, always putting our men and women and tax dollars out to help others, even sorry asses who don't deserve it.

Answer those questions. Or bite me. Your choice, you moral and intellectual giant you.

Go talk to Carter, he digs your type. And you know what else? There are enough Arabs with the balls to speak up and tell the truth, but how are they treated by your kind?

Blow off.
#36 Right Wing Conspirator at 8:42 pm on May 31, 2006
Alia,

*insert Sojourners comments here*

#37 Fay at 8:43 pm on May 31, 2006
Sojo #35, go sister! Great post girlfriend.
#38 gutterfiend at 8:44 pm on May 31, 2006
#36 Right Wing Conspirator
Alia,

*insert Sojourners comments here*


Er, yeah. Word.
#39 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 8:44 pm on May 31, 2006
On a related topic, here's today's editorial from my local paper (paid subscription only, hence the lack of link):
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"A documentary film about Islamic extremism shown in Winnipeg this week has raised howls of protest from those who claim it promotes hate against Muslims. Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West is nothing of the sort. It is a point-of-view film that is intended as a wakeup call for the West and for moderate Muslims.

The movie is a powerful indictment of Islamic extremism and Western ambivalence to the problem, but it also goes out of its way to declare that most Muslims are decent people who want to live in peace and harmony with their neighbours. If a similar movie had been made about Nazi Germany in the 1930s, it might have caused a backlash against Germans, but that wouldn't be a reason to withhold it and allow the threat to continue unchallenged and unexposed. Indeed, who knows how many lives might have been saved if a documentary about the real nature of Nazism had been shown around the world? Who knows how many lives might have been saved if the West took seriously Hitler's own words, instead of dismissing them as deranged bravado?

With commentary from an impressive array of experts, including a former PLO terrorist, a Nazi youth commander and the daughter of an Egyptian spymaster killed by Israeli commandos, Obsession convincingly shows that a growing number of Islamic extremists and radicals are determined to kills Jews and Westerners, eliminate Israel and spread their doctrine of religious intolerance and hate. As the film makes clear, there can be no compromise with this virulent brand of violent, irrational bigotry. And the weak-minded should stop apologizing, as if the West is somehow to blame for the extremism that now threatens the world.

The documentary shows that education systems across the Islamic world are teaching young children to hate Jews and Christians. It is hard to hope for peace -- or even to contemplate a reasonable dialogue -- under such conditions. But the message of the film is clear: Everyone, including moderate Muslims, must stand up against extremism, or face the consequences. It is appropriate that Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day will endorse the film's message when it opens in Toronto on June 22. As one of the world's wealthiest nations with a reputation for promoting human rights, Canada has a duty to lead in the fight against extremism."
#40 solus rex at 8:50 pm on May 31, 2006

but it also goes out of its way to declare that most Muslims are decent people who want to live in peace and harmony with their neighbours

Where did they get that idea?

#41 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 8:56 pm on May 31, 2006
Solus, it was stated at the start, at the end, and by several of the interviewees (including Daniel Pipes).

Whether you personally agree with that, the fact is they had to state it. And even so there were many people who claimed it was "Islamophobic." The local CAIR representative (OK, CAIR Canada, big difference) called for the local police to provide extra protection for mosques and Islamic schools following the screening. Talk about grandstanding... but I don't know how many people, apart from those who are unshakeably anti-Israel and anti-America, are falling for that crap anymore.
#42 Sojourner at 9:04 pm on May 31, 2006
Hi bloggie, btw. (No manners have I lately)

cba, have you seen it yet? I've been looking forward to this documentary very much and can't wait until it's on sale on DVD, or showing in my area - both actually!

gutterfiend, did you have a nice birthday?
#43 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 9:15 pm on May 31, 2006
Saw it on Monday night--and Nonie Darwish was there! She spoke afterwards and answered questions and then stayed a while to chat.

I'm nutso busy at the moment but might do a GA if I get a chance before it's no longer timely.
#44 Sojourner at 9:20 pm on May 31, 2006
cba, now I remember that. PLEASE do a GA post about it, we'd love to hear it!
#45 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 9:21 pm on May 31, 2006
Sojo, I will if I can.
#46 Sojourner at 9:26 pm on May 31, 2006
night cba, sweet dreams.


Censure Carter Committee to me
More options May 30(22 hours ago)




In 2004, liberal filmmaker, Michael Moore, maliciously accused President Bush of having supposed close ties to Osama BinLadin.

But Michael Moore, as usual, wasn't telling you the truth.

You see, the BinLadin family does have close ties to an American president, but it isn't George W. Bush they were closest to.

NO, that distinction belongs to disgraced former President, Jimmy Carter.


Bakr BinLadin
An investigation by the Censure Carter Committee into the financing for "The Carter Center" of Atlanta, Georgia (founded by President Carter and his wife to advance his "Blame America First" foreign policies) reveals that over $1,000,000 has been funneled from Bakr M. BinLadin for the Saudi BinLadin Group to the Carter Center.

In fact, an online report accuses former President Carter of meeting with 10 of Osama BinLadin's brothers early in 2000. Carter and his wife, Rosalyn followed up their meeting with a breakfast with Bakr BinLadin in September 2000 and secured the first $200,000 towards the more than $1 MILLION that has since been received by the Carter Center.

If you think this news troubles Michael Moore and his friends in the liberal, anti-war crowd, think again. You see, they're not interested in the truth - they only seem interested in advancing their defeatist political message: "America is almost aways wrong... America is the source of many of the world's problems."

In fact, during the 2004 Democratic National Convention, former President Jimmy Carter hosted Michael Moore in the presidential viewing box, while ex-President Bill Clinton addressed the crowd.


Jimmy Carter hosts Michael Moore
In the Presidential Box at the 2004
Democratic National Convention

#47 Tarek at 4:23 pm on Oct 25, 2006
tell you what dont listen to alia or mostafa or others just search for the true islam and take this for example (www.islam.com)
#48 RIP Ford at 4:49 pm on Oct 25, 2006
#47 Tarek
tell you what dont listen to alia or mostafa or others just search for the true islam and take this for example (www.islam.com)

Or, you could just as easily go here.
#49 Lewis at 6:38 pm on Oct 25, 2006
#47 Tarek
tell you what dont listen to alia or mostafa or others just search for the true islam and take this for example (www.islam.com)

Does the true Islam go murderous batshit crazy over some stupid cartoons, but remain curiously silent in the face of insane proclamations by guys like Mahathir Mohamad (linky) or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

Just wondering.
#50 Trillian at 6:42 pm on Oct 25, 2006
I love the phrase "batshit crazy".
#51 John at 6:14 am on Jan 28, 2007
Respect yourselves you...
#52 WHATEVER at 6:19 pm on May 12, 2008
Hhahahahahaa i just love americans!! so full of them selves!! hahahahahahahahaha comedians! a whole country of comedians! "oh wait here's an idea!! let's go across oceans and continents to fight for our freedom" however the hell that works... well as history have shown us, all "great" empires come to an end eventually... americas turn will come... sooner or later it will come... until then, keep the funny act going...the whole world it laughing at u... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
#53 סטרמי Stormi at 6:22 pm on May 12, 2008
Whatever should have directed his mother over to the DITY abortion thread while he was in utero.
#54 Lewis at 6:28 pm on May 12, 2008
Hhahahahahaa i just love americans!! so full of them selves!!

I'm humbled by the object lessen in quiet dignity you've taught us all.
#55 airforcewife at 6:34 pm on May 12, 2008
LMAO!
#56 WHATEVER at 6:35 pm on May 12, 2008
Thank you Stormi for providing a perfect example of an "american idiot"... which when out of words or counter arguments, or just anything good to come up with, turns to what americans do best.... being bullies

Once again thank u stormi
#57 סטרמי Stormi at 6:38 pm on May 12, 2008
#56 WHATEVER
what americans do best.... being bullies

Get out of my face before I shove you in a locker, pipsqueak.
#58 Lewis at 6:39 pm on May 12, 2008
lessen lesson

Hmmm, only had two drinks this evening, so I'll have to blame something else.

Creeping senility, maybe.
#59 levi from queens at 6:40 pm on May 12, 2008
#56 WHATEVER
Thank you Stormi for providing a perfect example of an "american idiot"... which when out of words or counter arguments, or just anything good to come up with, turns to what americans do best.... being bullies

Once again thank u stormi
We Americans have infinite words.

And in fact the children of the world do not wish to grow up in Saudi or Zimabwe or China, they wish to grow up in Ameica.
#60 airforcewife at 6:43 pm on May 12, 2008
Is this JayDe? Jayde? However that is spelled...

I can't wait for the Zionist discussion to start again.
#61 levi from queens at 6:43 pm on May 12, 2008
so I lost a b and an r, so shoot me.
#62 floranista at 6:48 pm on May 12, 2008
#54 Lewis
Hhahahahahaa i just love americans!! so full of them selves!!

I'm humbled by the object lessen in quiet dignity you've taught us all.

Perfect response.

Seeing as Stormi's idea isn't feasible...
#63 floranista at 6:49 pm on May 12, 2008
#61 levi from queens
so I lost a b and an r, so shoot me.

#64 WHATEVER at 7:00 pm on May 12, 2008
Well acctually i pitty you guys... i mean its not really ur fault, being spoon fed by the media about other cultures and religion and how extreme they are... i mean if i was in america i would probably be thinking just like you, as all the pictures and programms on tv show islam and muslims as being extremists and terrorists and all that... But, have u ever asked urself WHY they are like that?

if u take israel as an example: the jews left the land 2000 years ago and now they come and claim that it was their land all along and whoever is living there will have to either leave or live under the israeli occupation... so why do no the italians just reclaim their land from most of europe, or the greeks reclaim their land from europe and aisa? was it not their land at one time in history?

and if u r soo angered by the innocents that are killed by muslims, how come u dont question urselves when u bomb a whole country just to get one man (bin laden)? how many innocent lives was lost in that act of madness? then u invade irak for whatever reason u want to beleive (be it weapons of mass destruction, or to bring democracy to irak)... who asked for ur help? and if it was for the weapons, which was found to be non-existent, why the hell are u still there? and when people in irak kill the american soldiers (bless them), they are terrorist, but if the soldiers kill the people they are heroes...

a well, I am looking forward to all the arguments and all the shit talking that this is gonna lead to... and by the way so that u dont think this is just another arab defending his culture country or religion, I am from Sweden
#65 solus rex at 7:02 pm on May 12, 2008
and by the way so that u dont think this is just another arab defending his culture country or religion, I am from Sweden
So much for Nordic supremacy.
#66 סטרמי Stormi at 7:04 pm on May 12, 2008
Oh, child. You are up way past your bedtime.
#67 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 7:04 pm on May 12, 2008
This thread looks like it's going to be fun! (Not quite as much fun as JaydE, but we'll take what we can get.)
#68 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 7:05 pm on May 12, 2008
#65 solus rex: Quite.
#69 airforcewife at 7:08 pm on May 12, 2008
He went to Zionism right after I asked!

I feel so... powerful! I mean, a self proclaimed Swede who is anti-Zionist? Who could have predicted?
#70 WHATEVER at 7:09 pm on May 12, 2008
why do u mock and make fun of anyone who has an opinion other than urs? Stormi I think u shud like read up or something and come with some intellectual arguments...
#71 סטרמי Stormi at 7:09 pm on May 12, 2008
#70 WHATEVER
why do u mock and make fun of anyone who has an opinion other than urs?

I ran out of puppies to kick.
#72 WHATEVER at 7:09 pm on May 12, 2008
and just because i MENTION israel does not make me an anti-zionist... get an education
#73 סטרמי Stormi at 7:10 pm on May 12, 2008
#72 WHATEVER
and just because i MENTION israel does not make me an anti-zionist... get an education

We mention Israel all the time. We do not, however, rant about 'Israeli occupation'.
#74 WHATEVER at 7:11 pm on May 12, 2008
what do u call it then if not an occupation?
#75 סטרמי Stormi at 7:11 pm on May 12, 2008
Can Whatever abort himself, ex post facto?
#76 סטרמי Stormi at 7:11 pm on May 12, 2008
#74 WHATEVER
what do u call it then if not an occupation?

Uhh... Six Days, bitch?
#77 WHATEVER at 7:12 pm on May 12, 2008
hehehehe see... u r setting a real good example man, keep it up...
#78 RIP Ford at 7:13 pm on May 12, 2008
#70 WHATEVER
why do u mock and make fun of anyone who has an opinion other than urs?

Because your opinion is stupid.
#79 WHATEVER at 7:14 pm on May 12, 2008
of course it is,,, just because it's not urs.... " the glorious american way"
#80 סטרמי Stormi at 7:15 pm on May 12, 2008
#78 RIP Ford

Because your opinion is stupid.

Winnar!
#81 WHATEVER at 7:16 pm on May 12, 2008
oh well... if anyone is capable of having a sensible discussion let me know...tired of talking to un educated retards
#82 RIP Ford at 7:18 pm on May 12, 2008
#79 WHATEVER
of course it is,,, just because it's not urs.... " the glorious american way"

Again, you assume we're all Americans when that's not the case.

I mean, you're not even bright enough to get that simple point right so why would you have a chance understanding something slightly more complex?
#83 airforcewife at 7:18 pm on May 12, 2008
You know, Whatever - you could go get an education and read yourself. There's a whole site here, and we've hashed out this argument many, many times with people far wittier than yourself.

You could read up, we could wait for you to be properly informed, and then when you have added proper punctuation and capitalization to your comments we could further discuss the issue.

The lack of basic grammatical rules worked for ee cummings; for you, not so much.
#84 WHATEVER at 7:20 pm on May 12, 2008
Great, i see u have nothing more to add as u jump on any irrelevant flaws in my posts just to have something to say....
#85 airforcewife at 7:23 pm on May 12, 2008
The lack of an ability to communicate your feelings in a manner that others can comprehend is hardly irrelevant - it is the foundation of a meaningful discussion.

Mistakes here and there are one thing - willfully disregarding anything that would make your comments coherent is just lazy.
#86 Lewis at 7:23 pm on May 12, 2008
#87 WHATEVER at 7:24 pm on May 12, 2008
Tell me then, what exactly is it that you did not understand in my comment so that I might clarify it to you.
#88 RIP Ford at 7:26 pm on May 12, 2008
#86 Lewis

LOL!

I'll see y'all later.
#89 airforcewife at 7:28 pm on May 12, 2008
I don't understand why you have such a high opinion of yourself or your own opinion.

Because quite frankly, your writing mannerisms and personality remind me of my 8th graders in Texas.

#90 סטרמי Stormi at 7:29 pm on May 12, 2008
8th graders? My dear, you're being quite generous.
#91 WHATEVER at 7:33 pm on May 12, 2008
I do not have high opinion of myself or my own opinion. I just wanted to convey to the people on this page a view of how the world looks at america. And to prove my point no one who responded to my posts did so without a sarcasm or bulleing. I do not say my opinion is the right one, I just want to say to americans especially that they are causing quite alot of suffering in the world them selves, so before pointing fingers at others, look at yourself first.
#92 Lewis at 7:33 pm on May 12, 2008
#74 WHATEVER
what do u call it then if not an occupation?

Is the Gaza Strip even occupied right now?

Are Palestinians still waging a war of terror on Israel?

Also, I've always found it curious that the PLO was founded in 1964, but the Occupied Territories weren't even Occupied until 1967. Just what do suppose they were trying to "liberate" then, eh?
#93 WHATEVER at 7:35 pm on May 12, 2008
There have been occupation since 1948. But lewis stay out of this plz, i am quite enjoying the conversation with airforce...
#94 סטרמי Stormi at 7:35 pm on May 12, 2008
Why do they do this? They come in all 'HAHAHA u stoopid americans ignorant motherhumpers' and then claim they're only trying to have a rational discussion but nobody will have dialogue with them?
#95 סטרמי Stormi at 7:36 pm on May 12, 2008
#91 WHATEVER
I do not have high opinion of myself or my own opinion.

That's good, because we don't either.
#96 Lewis at 7:37 pm on May 12, 2008
#91 WHATEVER
I do not have high opinion of myself or my own opinion. I just wanted to convey to the people on this page a view of how the world looks at america. And to prove my point no one who responded to my posts did so without a sarcasm or bulleing. I do not say my opinion is the right one, I just want to say to americans especially that they are causing quite alot of suffering in the world them selves, so before pointing fingers at others, look at yourself first.

Look asshole, superior jackoffs who think they're going to "educate" us "dumb Murcans" are a dime a dozen. You're hardly a unique flower, and, believe me, we've heard this same line of bullshit hundreds of times over.

We know exactly what millions of snooty Europeans (not to mention raving Arab loonies) think of us, and we accord your opinions all the respect they deserve.
#97 WHATEVER at 7:38 pm on May 12, 2008
Stormi let it go man...
#98 airforcewife at 7:39 pm on May 12, 2008
I'm not pointing a finger at you - I'm annoyed that you've come over to preach the Gospel of Moral High Ground without even knowing with whom you speak.

Read around some, then start throwing around your "uneducated" comments again. You're really good at calling names yourself (apparently we're all retarded bullies), then when someone takes offense and points out your shortcomings you immediately act like some kind of aggrieved victim with some sort of moral license to wag your finger like a schoolmarm on crack.

Perhaps the problem isn't Americans, and perhaps I could care less what your views - or anyone else's views - are about America. Unlike most of Europe, I just don't see any reason to beat myself up over the fact that someone doesn't like me.

Who cares? I gave up the whole clique thing after leaving high school.

And now I really am going to bed.
#99 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 7:39 pm on May 12, 2008
#95 סטרמי Stormi

That's good, because we don't either.
Rim shot.
#100 WHATEVER at 7:39 pm on May 12, 2008
You cannot beleive how happy I am in hearing that I am not a "unique flower" in this.
#101 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 7:41 pm on May 12, 2008
#81 WHATEVER
oh well... if anyone is capable of having a sensible discussion let me know...tired of talking to un educated retards

We note that this comment was recorded at 7:16 pm zst. We further note that (true to form for these types), it continues to post.

Prediction: An hour or two longer at least.
#102 WHATEVER at 7:45 pm on May 12, 2008
I see. You simply do not want anyone to challenge your opinion. Well I guess I would not want that either if my opinion was as misled. Be that way, just do not say you were not warned when you are not the world's formost military power anymore

Your turn will come
#103 Lewis at 7:47 pm on May 12, 2008
#100 WHATEVER
You cannot beleive how happy I am in hearing that I am not a "unique flower" in this.

I thought you were the educated and informed one in all this?

Dude, read the papers! Watch the news!

The world, generally, has a big disagreement with U.S. foreign policy!

You seriously think we're so ill-informed that we don't know this?
#104 Lewis at 7:49 pm on May 12, 2008
#102 WHATEVER
I see. You simply do not want anyone to challenge your opinion. Well I guess I would not want that either if my opinion was as misled. Be that way, just do not say you were not warned when you are not the world's formost military power anymore

Your turn will come

Probably.

But let's see how much you like it when China becomes the new Global Hegemon.

You'll be waxing nostalgiac as hell for the good old days when the U.S. was the biggest boy on the block, that's what.
#105 Lewis at 7:52 pm on May 12, 2008
You simply do not want anyone to challenge your opinion.

My opinion is challenged every day; I'm used to it.

But I'll betcha yours isn't so much. I think it's you who is more uncomfortable having your opinions challenged.
#106 סטרמי Stormi at 8:15 pm on May 12, 2008
Yay, Lewis made him R-U-N-N-O-F-T!
#107 Lewis at 8:18 pm on May 12, 2008
As a followup to my #105 ...

Ferinstance, what do you make of that little tidbit about the founding of the PLO that I mentioned in post #92?

Were you aware of that fact?

I'm guessing no.

If I'm right, then hey, your visit here wasn't a complete waste of time.

Just think, you might've actually learned something.

But maybe you already knew that.

So tell me something I don't know.

Go ahead, I'm all ears.
#108 floranista at 9:05 pm on May 12, 2008
#83 airforcewife
The lack of basic grammatical rules worked for ee cummings; for you, not so much.

*giggling*
#109 RIP Ford at 9:51 pm on May 12, 2008
#102 WHATEVER
Be that way, just do not say you were not warned when you are not the world's formost military power anymore

When we have a strategic need for ice, we'll call y'all.
#110 floranista at 10:23 pm on May 12, 2008
#109 RIP Ford

When we have a strategic need for ice, we'll call y'all.

#111 airforcewife at 5:56 am on May 13, 2008
Dammit! He left when Lewis was just getting into his groove! That spoils all the fun!

Lewis, would you be averse to taking your skilz to GTMO? That would be so much darn fun to watch.
#112 Throbert McGee at 7:21 am on May 13, 2008
I'll say this much for WHATEVER: if I'm gonna be lectured about how Merkins are all retarded bullies, I'd much sooner get an earful from an authentic European (as he seems to be), than from a Yank expat farting around Stockholm, or G-d forbid, some insufferable Manhattanite who won't even go to Queens unless his shots are all up to date.
#113 Lewis at 7:24 am on May 13, 2008
#111 airforcewife
Dammit! He left when Lewis was just getting into his groove! That spoils all the fun!

Lewis, would you be averse to taking your skilz to GTMO? That would be so much darn fun to watch.

The Ghana Timber Millers Organisation ? Why should I go there?
#114 Mrs. Lewis at 8:15 am on May 13, 2008
#113 Lewis

The Ghana Timber Millers Organisation ? Why should I go there?

LOL!

This is why I married you.
#115 Ras at 5:46 pm on Jan 20, 2010
Ever listened to any of his speaches? guess not...
bunch of gimmicks!
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