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Senate passes interrogation, military trials for Al Qaeda
WASHINGTON - The Senate on Thursday endorsedIt leaves the status quo essentially in place, while satisfying the Supreme Court and taking an issue ("illegal courts! torture!") away from the Democrats, just in time for the election. Good stuff. Pity some "maverick" Republicans can't stop grandstanding as shamelessly as the worst of the Democrats, 24/7, in love with their own pomposity and buffoonery.
President Bush's plans to prosecute and interrogate terror suspects, all but sealing congressional approval for legislation that Republicans intend to use on the campaign trail to assert their toughness on terrorism.
The 65-34 vote means the bill could reach the president's desk by week's end. The House passed nearly identical legislation on Wednesday and was expected to approve the Senate bill on Friday, sending it on to the White House.
The bill would create military commissions to prosecute terrorism suspects. It also would prohibit some of the worst abuses of detainees like mutilation and rape, but grant the president leeway to decide which other interrogation techniques are permissible.
Posted by evariste on Sep 28, 2006 5:06 pm
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[ #9 ]/ king's shadow: LOL! Let me know what you think of the film.
LOL, it's good to see you again franco, I've missed you.
I'm watching "The Book of Eli", and the very first scene, Denzel Washington kills a cat.
That will be one of the finalists for Threadline of the Year. :)
Good to see you again, RWC. I was afraid that you had flounced after the Bacteria thread. :) And
[ Vanity Fair's Sarah Palin Profiler: 'The Worst Stuff Isn't Even In There' ]/ ' The
' The Palestinian Authority and Christian leaders on Thursday signed an accord to repair the Church of the Nativity
' Asked about Hamas on Thursday, White House Mideast envoy George Mitchell said: "We do not expect Hamas to
' Abbas and Netanyahu are far apart on issues that have eluded a solution for decades, including the borders
' To relaunch Middle East peace talks on Thursday, the Israeli and Palestinian leaders and their American mediators quietly
Holy Shit. Anyone who voted for this nitfuck deserves the government that they've gotten. I feel sorry for the
#4 zorki: I think the situation is a little different _ via a vis _ South and Central American
[ #9 ]/ zorkmidden and shop for specials for denture adhesives. [img]
[ #3 ]/ Cam: I know the Chinese do that and that there are networks who loan money to
#5 zorki: She should be tried, then, for the crime of dumbfuckery - assuming that that is is a
#2 zorki: They work it off when they arrive.
A little OT, but every time I read the stories about illegal immigrants who come to the West for jobs,
packen, if you haven't seen "Fallen", you should.
[ #8 ]/ RWC: And when you're not robbing people of their bling, you can commiserate with evariste about
' Of course, I have no way of knowing if the Tamils’ claims are genuine: post-civil war Sri Lanka
It _ was _ surprising, but I felt the movie sacrificed its own internal logic and mood for the sake
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[ PA arrests two Hamas members for the terror attack ]/ . The [ JPost article ]/ does not
[ #5 ]/ king's shadow: It surprised me and I liked it.
[ #6 ]/ Thousand Sons: And they wouldn't drop out of school if only they had schools. Or alarms.
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So what's the threshold for probable cause to be officially considered a suspect? It could be very low, especially if you consider this from the article:
(Emphasis mine).
Hearsay evidence. Think about it for a minute. This basically means that s witness could testify that he heard from some person that some other person had called somebody a possible terrorist, and if the judge thinks that the witness is reliable this testimony might be enough to put somebody on trial. This isn't very encouraging. That make it possible for people to snitch on somebody they simply don't like and have that person carted off to detention somewhere in the world.
Don't forget, a lot of detainees, including some held at Guantanamo Bay, hadn't been terrorists after all. For example, some tribes in Afghanistan had handed over members of other tribes to the coalition troops as terrorists, when all they had been after was the reward money. And given the low standard for reasonable cause that hearsay evidence effectivelky sets, you'll end up with a lot of falsely accused detainees, amyn of whome will be subjected to aggresive 'interrogation methods' like waterboarding.
Even if you forget about the injustice this amounts to, it also will tie up a lot of personnel and resources that are needed elsewhere. Innocent people who had been gone through the process, including waterboarding, will also have a very personal reason to be hostile and act accordingly.
The net effect will be less rather than more security.