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Muslims first, British second

Muslims in Britain: Feeling Foreign at Home

According to a survey conducted by the Channel 4 TV station, fully one-third of 18 to 24-year-old Muslims in Britain say they would rather live under the provisions of the Sharia -- Islamic law -- than under United Kingdom law.

Another survey, which questioned Muslims the world over, found that 81 percent of Muslims living in Great Britain identified themselves first as Muslims and only secondly as citizens of their country. Only in Pakistan did more people identify themselves as Muslims first -- countries like Jordan, Egypt and Turkey all showed results below those of Great Britain.
According to London police, there are between 800 and 1,200 young British Muslims who are prepared to become suicide bombers and kill their fellow British citizens.

Posted by zorkmidden on Aug 15, 2006 12:00 am

20 comments, latest by Nick Raye at 1:57 pm 9/2

#1 lewy14 at 4:25 am on Aug 15, 2006

That giant crunching sound you hear is the bow hitting the iceberg.

#2 mauro at 5:04 am on Aug 15, 2006

The more you accomodate them, the more they demand. The less you accomodate them the less they demand. It's just their DNA.

#3 cba γβα גבא ابت вба at 5:09 am on Aug 15, 2006

#2 mauro
The more you accomodate them, the more they demand. The less you accomodate them the less they demand. It's just their DNA.
I'd say it's basic human nature--just look at two-year-olds. If you give in to a two-year-old's tantrum, guess what? You get more tantrums. If you don't, eventually they grow up.


#4 Frank IBC at 6:20 am on Aug 15, 2006

"You give an inch, they take a mile."

-Old English or American aphorism

#5 yerfej at 7:07 am on Aug 15, 2006

If they are so in love with being Muslim why don't they go and live in a muslim country? I just don't get it, they could all go to Pakistan and have a merry old time but they would rather just stay in GB on the dole and complain!

#6 TalkinKamel at 8:10 am on Aug 15, 2006

#5 yerfej

Well, first there is that nice dole---they aren't going to get anything nearly as generous in Pakistan, or wherever.

(Memo to socialist nations: if you want to defang your Islamic populations, try cutting back on the welfare).

Secondly, they do want to go and live in a Moslem country---they want to make the country they've moved to Moslem. What Islam couldn't do by war, they're now attempting to do by immigration, i.e., conquer the West.

#7 Spike at 11:18 am on Aug 15, 2006

How is this any different than all those evangelicals who say everyone is going to hell if they don't believe in the second coming of jesus christ? I've been around a lot of those people, they are anti-semitic, racist meatheads, and their opinions are identical to the muslims being cited here. Why not fix the problems here first, then worry about everyone else.

#8 zorkmidden at 11:21 am on Aug 15, 2006

#7 Spike
How is this any different than all those evangelicals who say everyone is going to hell if they don't believe in the second coming of jesus christ? I've been around a lot of those people, they are anti-semitic, racist meatheads, and their opinions are identical to the muslims being cited here. Why not fix the problems here first, then worry about everyone else.

According to London police, there are between 800 and 1,200 young British Muslims who are prepared to become suicide bombers and kill their fellow British citizens.

Now, let's see:

According to London police, there are between 800 and 1,200 young British Evangelical Christians who are prepared to become suicide bombers and kill their fellow British citizens.

Hmmm...

#9 Frank IBC at 11:22 am on Aug 15, 2006

#7 Spike
How is this any different than all those evangelicals who say everyone is going to hell if they don't believe in the second coming of jesus christ? I've been around a lot of those people, they are anti-semitic, racist meatheads, and their opinions are identical to the muslims being cited here. Why not fix the problems here first, then worry about everyone else.

Are you familiar of the concept of motes and beams, Spike?

#10 Lewis at 11:32 am on Aug 15, 2006

their opinions are identical to the muslims being cited here

You mean they believe that if they die while engaging in jihad, that they'll get 72 virgins to frolic with forevermore in heaven?

#11 mauro at 11:50 am on Aug 15, 2006

How is this any different than all those evangelicals who say everyone is going to hell if they don't believe in the second coming of jesus christ?

Try "because Evangelists do not bring down jumbo-jets" for starters and soon it'll all trickle down.

I've been around a lot of those people, they are anti-semitic, racist meatheads, and their opinions are identical to the muslims being cited here.

I am sure you realise that even only 5% of hostile Muslims is about 60 million people. I am sure you realise that you don't have 60 million out-and-out committed racists murderers amongst the various far right or even white supremacists groups.

Why not fix the problems here first, then worry about everyone else.

Because, on a scale of priorities and urgencies,the problem of your local racist, hotairhead, anti-semite is nowhere near as urgent as bombs on a subway.

#12 TalkinKamel at 12:15 pm on Aug 15, 2006

Spike

Get back to us when Christian Evangelicals start blowing up planes, announcing that they are going to wage a worldwide Crusade against unbelievers and that their ultimate goal is to re-establish the Latin Kingdom of Jersualem, and place the entire world under the rule of a Christian emperor.

We'll be waiting.

#13 TalkinKamel at 12:21 pm on Aug 15, 2006

And Spike, I've said it before, and I'll say it again; I honestly do not care if somebody thinks I'm going to Hell.

What bothers me is when they begin actively trying to kill or injure me, or force Shari'a law on me, or demand I live as a second-class citizen under a Caliph, in a society run along 8th Century lines.

People can think whatever they like about me. They can approve of me, disapprove of me or be frankly indifferent to me. I don't care. Only the very insecure worry all the time that others don't like them, or get angry when some group excludes them, or has opinions that are different.

The only time I get mad is when they actively start trying to force their beliefs on me, and threaten me if I resist. And this is exactly what Islamic terrorists are doing right now, to the world at large.

#14 Mike at 10:24 pm on Aug 17, 2006

Jews do not own the USA. Jews do not have the right to tell Americans what to think or how to live. The day jews believe they have authority over a population is the day that jews and muslims become indestinguishable from one another. Jews and muslims both had better wake up to their own internal problems of self-rightousness or we the real population will put you all in your places.....again.

#15 evariste at 10:25 pm on Aug 17, 2006

^got here by Googling "Jews Must Go"^

#16 Mother Cow at 10:27 pm on Aug 17, 2006

Sorry, but they do own the USA, and thus have the right to tell you what to think and how to live.

Didn't you get the memo? Shape up or ship out.

#17 Mother Cow at 10:28 pm on Aug 17, 2006

Hee hee, Mother Cow likes to have fun between milkings.

#18 If it wasn't for the Hebrew... at 10:34 pm on Aug 17, 2006

Jews and muslims both

I read that as Jews and musicians both.

L'chaim Mike! I'm glad I don't own your worthless ass.

#19 floranista at 1:20 am on Aug 18, 2006

#7 Spike
How is this any different than all those evangelicals who say everyone is going to hell if they don't believe in the second coming of jesus christ? I've been around a lot of those people, they are anti-semitic, racist meatheads, and their opinions are identical to the muslims being cited here. Why not fix the problems here first, then worry about everyone else.
Because the evangelicals are not sawing off people's heads, stoning women, hanging gays or committing "honor" killings.

#20 Nick Raye at 1:57 pm on Sep 02, 2006

It really is time to end this disease of political correctness and actually do something about the Muslim problem in Britain. Yes, its true, these scum living here on the dole and benefitting from free education and healthcare really do believe that 'Allah provides' - a direct quote from one of the would-be terrorists interviewed on Jon Snow's C4 documentary. Let us not fool ourselves, most of these Fifth Columnists wish us ill, and the minority who do voice a Britain-friendly opinion do so only when they fear a backlash. Again today there have been more arrests: A Muslim school in Sussex was raided, believed to be a front for training Islamic terrorists. The first priority for this government should be to close down Islamic 'faith schools' and then to ban mosques, the other source of anti-western hatred within these shores. Don't doubt it, the majority of Muslims in Britain sympathise with 9/11 and 7/7. Remove them all before its too late.
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