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daily archive: 12/04/2004
evariste in Discarded Lies:
Communist Song And Dance
A Maoist For Dutch Intelligence-I couldn't stop laughing at this...[subscription required]
ZANDVOORT, Netherlands -- As secretary-general of the Marxist-Leninist Party of the Netherlands, Chris Petersen traveled the globe during the Cold War, wowing Communist leaders with his revolutionary zeal and anticapitalist diatribes.

"I could make speeches for hours and you would think that Mao Tse-tung himself had been my teacher," recalls the now-retired party chief.

The Chinese Communist Party was so impressed, it regularly gave the ranting Dutchman the full red-carpet treatment in Beijing: banquets in the Great Hall of the People, an audience with Mao, envelopes stuffed with cash and tributes in the People's Daily. Albania's Communists were also big fans.

Now, with communism all but dead, the Dutchman has decided to come clean: Both he and his party were a sham.


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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Korean Missionaries In Iraq
Korea exports salvation[bugmenot]
With more than 12,000 abroad, South Korea has rapidly become the world's second-largest source of Christian missionaries (the United States is first), only a couple of decades after it started deploying them.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
An Enemy of the World
I have been told by many "more veteran" settlers that they remember before the Intifada when they used to go to the shops and souks of the local Arab towns and cities. They used to invite Arabs to their homes and celebrations and were invited back. Yes, these were the evil settlers pouring tea to their Arab guests of their home and enquiring about the health of their relatives. These were the abhorrent Arab-hating settlers who would moan about the weather with the Arab shopkeepers as they did their weekly grocery shopping. What may surprise many is that most settlers long for these times again and dream of living side by side with Arabs or anyone in peace and harmony. Damn they are truly evil!
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Tartan Taleban
HE HAS the thickest of Dundee accents and an infectious chuckle which he employs at the end of almost every clipped sentence. They are somewhat at odds with his fine white Muslim clothes ... and his reputation.

James McLintock, 40, has travelled a long way from his unremarkable Catholic upbringing in 1960s Scotland to his being dubbed the Tartan Taleban after he was arrested in Afghanistan in 2001. He was later released.

But the Muslim convert is a committed Jihadist who after attending an Arab training camp fought the "Godless Communists" in Afghanistan and the Serbs in Bosnia.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Streets of Kiev
For the record, orange is my favourite colour and I love chestnuts. So today I feel totally vindicated (and sophisticated about my tastes ;-)
Two weeks ago, who would have thought of orange as a revolutionary color and chestnuts as a symbol of democracy?
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
To The Reds And The Blues...
If you don't read Mike Silverman, you're missing out:
To the reds...Don't forget that 48% of the nation voted for the other guy. 51% is not a supermajority. Don't govern like you have a mandate from God because you don't, and remember that you are responsible for governing all of America, not just that 51%.

To the blues...Get over it, you lost. There was no conspiracy, the voting pretty much worked, but a majority of people voted for the other guy. Accept that and live with it, and if you don't like it, convince more people to vote your way in 2008.
A few notes to the reds and blues a month later
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Greek History Through A Turkish Prism
This is not the history I grew up with. To say that the Greek side has "a different perception" as Mr. Akyol puts it, is an understatement at best. I don't know how much of this to believe but here it is. However, I must admit I had no idea about the atrocities against the Turkish Cypriots until I read Mr. Akyol's link Attempted Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing in Cyprus. So yes, my perception was definitely "different."
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Allah's Giant Spiders
From Smug Monkey: Spiders? Where?

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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Union Carbide Factory in Bhopal
From Shot By Both Sides (I'm beginning to know the feeling, John B):
A lot of people are spouting a load of nonsense about Bhopal, presumably in order to celebrate the anniversary of the tragedy there. "Hooray, it's the anniverary of a tragedy, we can go bash a multinational! That'll be worthy and tasteful."
Made to make your eyes water
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Judicial Overreach: UK Judge Tramples Free Speech
George Galloway has been handed a victory by the UK's justice system. It seems the standard over there is now that a newspaper has to be able to prove any allegation it prints to the same degree of satisfaction as a court of law would require to convict a person of it. And if they can't, they aren't allowed to editorialize about it at all. Utterly ridiculous.

The judge strongly criticised the coverage, including the newspaper's news reports, leaders, headlines and use of pictures, saying that the articles were not "neutral reportage" of the documents.

The newspaper had "not merely adopted" the allegations in the documents but had "embraced them with relish and fervour".

Neil Darbyshire, the executive editor of The Daily Telegraph, said the newspaper was "disappointed by this judgment, which we believe is a blow to the principle of freedom of expression in this country".

"The Daily Telegraph published genuine documents that emanated from the highest levels of the Iraqi government and raised questions about the activities of Mr Galloway, a British Member of Parliament.

"While we have no doubt that these documents are authentic, it has never been The Daily Telegraph's case to suggest that we could prove the information contained within them is true." The paper had published them "believing that their contents were important, should be made public and would in due course be investigated by the proper authorities".

The newspaper is considering an appeal.
Even worse:
The judge found Mr Galloway a "truthful and compelling" witness, and all witnesses to be "impressive and straightforward", but he ruled that the newspaper coverage had not been "neutral".
Say whaaat?
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Principles of Secularism
An argument for secularism from Ahmad Al-Baghdadi, a political science lecturer at Kuwait University:
"Do you know why Allah helps the secular country? Because it is just. Why doesn't He help countries that build mosques every day? Because these countries are oppressive…
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Sympathy for the Devil
zombie is featuring Hedy Epstein's lecture at U.C. Berkeley. In case you didn't know, Hedy Epstein is a Holocaust survivor and member of the International Solidarity Movement. See what you make of this.
Audience Member:I wanted to address the question that this gentleman asked about your comparison, or lack of comparison, to the Holocaust and what's going on in Israel right now. Um, I did write this down, I don't know if anyone else has it in their notes but, um, just to be clear at the-- at the end you kind of summed up with, "What was once done to the Jews was now being done by the Jews." So that [...] so I think that's the comparison. Um, [...] um, so just want to agree about that. I wanted to know, could you speak to the issue of suicide bombing towards Israel? I wanted to know what your thoughts are about that.
Hedy Epstein: Um, I'm opposed to all terrorism regardless who the perpetrator is, whether that's a Palestinian or an Israeli or anybody else in the world.
Other AMs: [Applause.]
HE: But I also want to add this: um, that I can-- while I don't condone suicide bombing -- with every fiber of my body I'm opposed to any kind of terrorism -- suicide bombing or whatever. But at the same time I'm trying, always trying to put myself in the shoes of another person, try to understand where he or she is coming from. And, and again I want to stress I'm totally opposed to suicide bombing. But I can understand why somebody might do that. Because when everything has been taken away from them and the only decision that is left to this person who may not know whether he's going to live the next day is to decide when he or she is going to die and then straps some bombs or whatever around his or her waist and go to Israel and take with-- as he takes his life, he takes the lives of many other innocent people, women, children, et cetera. Men, women, and children. There's no others.
AM: You're saying that -- all their rights are taken away by Israel?
HE: Right. When he has nothing left, doesn't even know whether he's going to live to the-- until tomorrow. And so it's his last decision: "I'm going to decide when I'm going to die and how I'm going to die." In the process, unfortunately, he takes with him other innocent people.
(evariste pbuh)
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Intelligent Voices of Faith
Talking with one of my liberal colleagues about the recent passage of many anti gay-marriage acts, I commented that I did not understand why non-religious people would care if gays could marry. He responded that he did not even understand why religious people would object. "Talk about 'What would Jesus do?'," he said. "Jesus loved and accepted everyone, so they are being totally unchristian to be against gay marriage. It doesn't make any sense!"
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