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daily archive: 11/23/2005
floranista in The Secret Garden:
Happy Thanksgiving!
To all comrades who are celebrating today...


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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Finally! The end of Catch & Release
Illegal immigrants from countries other than Mexico will no longer be released by border patrol agents with a piece of paper ordering them to appear in front of a judge. Instead, they're subject to immediate deportation, same as Mexicans.

It's about time that giant loophole was closed. We've been getting over 100 thousand Brazilians a year, and who knows how many terrorists.
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guest author: unsigned in Discarded Lies - Hyperlinkopotamus:
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Taking Orders
This is one of the weirdest stories I've read: Restaurant Shift Turns Into Nightmare.

An 18-year-old McDonald's worker was accused of stealing a purse by her manager who was talking on the phone with a "police officer". Louise Ogborn was ordered to strip, to do jumping jacks naked, she was tormented and sexually abused for the next two hours by the manager and the manager's boyfriend who were following the orders of the caller on the phone. Two more employees were ordered to come in and supervise Louise while she was huddled on the floor naked but they refused to comply with the stranger's requests and they left.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Bush partly wins China over on Iran
The boring and feckless EU-3 strategy took another step forward recently as China expressed sympathetic noises about keeping Iran from having a full nuclear fuel cycle. I don't trust the Chinese and the Russians as far as I can throw them, which ain't far, but whatever I think of the ultimate futility of this enterprise, I can't deny that it's quite a coup for Bush to have turned Russia and China around like that.

I just wish I believed there was any time left for this charade to continue.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Thanksgiving Day greeting for the troops
Ben Stein is his usual eloquent self in thanking the troops for putting everything on the line for our fat, lazy asses. He also wonders what Patrick Fitzgerald thinks he's doing.
2.) It is not just a guess, but a certainty that if the U.S. were to abruptly withdraw from Iraq, as the Democrats are urging us to do, there would be a bloodbath in Iraq far worse than what we have seen so far. There would be outright civil war, large scale massacres of civilian populations beyond what we have seen by an order of magnitude, and a Middle East in chaos as Iran, the Kurds, and the Sunnis fought it out for land and oil and power. The word of the United States would be mud. Is this really what the Democrats want? Can they really contemplate with calm equanimity the mass murders that will follow a sudden U.S. withdrawal?

I see a frightening pattern here: the Democrats wanted us out of Vietnam, and never mind the genocide that followed. The Democrats want us out of Iraq and never mind that the Baathists will fill the vacuum and all Iraq will be screaming in pain except the murderers, who will exult -- especially Osama bin Laden. Can it be that the Democrats really want to surrender to the same man who killed 3,000 civilians on 9/11 and laughed about it? Are we so weak that in only four years, after a war smaller in casualties than many unknown battles of the Civil War, we are already eager to surrender to the man who murdered women and children and made terrified couples hold hands and leap to their deaths from the World Trade Center? If so, there really is little hope for us as a people. My prayer is that careful reflection will convince the Democrats that while we are all unhappy about the war, war is hell, and surrender is far worse.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
What would you do?
Seventy four percent of Germans think euthanasia for seriously ill patients should be legalized and three out of four Spaniards favor euthanasia in cases of terminal illness and unbearable pain. According to this survey, 15% of doctors admitted - anonymously - that they had participated in assisted suicide. In an aging Europe, where the number of senior citizens has increased and the importance of religion decreased, euthanasia is already legal in some countries and being considered in others. These numbers will probably rise in the future and it's a debate that will extend to the States even more widely than it has already.

I wouldn't want to travel to Switzerland to die in a one-room apartment rented by Dignitas, knowing the whole time I'm traveling that this is my last day alive, that I'll be dead in a few hours; there's something very creepy about that and I don't think I could do it. I'm trying to imagine the desperation of a person having to do this, would they choose to end their lives in this manner, in an anonymous room, if they had other options? And how does one deal with unbearable pain at the end of one's life?

An agonizing debate about euthanasia
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sine in The People's Diner:
Thanksgiving 2005
I won't be able to be in the diner tomorrow, but I've left recipes and all the necessary ingredients. Who wants to cook?

(Let's have a holiday cookie party! If you have a great cookie recipe, send it to Sine.)
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
When a mob dictates whether you can attend classes or not
A mob breaks into a university, destroys lecture halls and offices and badly beats two students who are trying to attend classes. Another mob takes cover in another part of the university and comes out sporadically to throw molotovs and set cars on fire. The police are seeing all this but are helpless to intervene because Greek law prohibits them from entering university grounds, the university is considered an "asylum." So, university deans, in addition to their administrative and teaching duties, also have to play peacemaker and negotiator to "fringe elements" who want to destroy the place for one reason or another.

The idea of not allowing police to enter university grounds may have been solid thirty years ago when Greece was recovering from a bloody student revolt where tanks and military police broke into the Polytechnic School in Athens to crush a student rebellion. But the abuse that this principle has taken over the last few decades should bring the idea back to the discussion table, perhaps it's time to establish a university police. Don't Greek students deserve the same protection as the rest of the Greek citizens?
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Law and order declines without a death penalty
Simon Heffer writes about the rise of deadly crime in the UK since the death penalty was abolished-it appears the murder rate has quadrupled there. He talks about being at a conference of law-enforcement types, probation officers, and so on, and experiencing the suffocatingly liberal atmosphere as the room fell completely silent when Heffer told the truth about the death penalty.

Heffer points out that the state hasn't given up the right to kill-Jean Charles de Menendez as an example-it's just given up killing people after a fair trial. Execution without trial: OK. Execution with trial: Not OK. How does that make sense?

The "Politically Correct Senior Policeman" that he talks about has his equal over here in the elderly liberal police chiefs who don't want the citizens to carry concealed weapons (while most rank-and-file officers do).
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guest author: Matt - מ?טי in Discarded Lies - Hyperlinkopotamus:
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Part XIII: The Battle of Great Zimbabwe
Jan van der Hoek received a hurried call from the girl that she had been pulled over and that was the last they heard from her. He had his own GPS based tracking monitor for the chip. They had apparently stopped for a break in Musina.

Jan had taken over from the former leader of the original group that the old Prince had formed. He had never dealt with the son but with the war in Angola long over, Mugabe in what he still preferred to think of as Rhodesia and the ANC in power in his native South Africa, he was glad for the work.

In a way there were still many opportunities for a man in his profession. But personally escorting the kids of rich Afrikaaners to school wasn't his cup of tea. He missed the old work. Nothing expressed his personality better, the hunt, the projection of power, the unleashing of violence, and transformation into the embodiment of Death. He had been richly rewarded for a job that was rewarding in itself.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Dust of Life
When U.S. forces withdrew from Vietnam in 1975, an estimated 50,000 Amerasian children were left behind. Amerasians – My lai – are regarded as "bui doi" – dirt or dust of life – children of the enemy by the xenophobic Vietnamese communists. However, to be My lai den bui doi – half-black Amerasian – is the lowest of the low in the repressive Vietnamese communist society.

There is a Vietnamese saying that it is better to marry the village dog than a man from somewhere else. It was commonplace for the mothers of Amerasian children to tear up their children’s birth certificate in an attempt to hide the ethnicity of their children out of fear of persecution by the communists; more so if their children were My lai den. At best, the mothers were ostracized – shunned – for bearing "half-breeds" because this meant that they had "collaborated" with the hated American enemy. Some mothers, fearing the new government's reaction, gave up their Amerasian children to relatives, childless couples, orphanages, or even abandoned them on the streets.
The whole article is heartbreaking: The Living Hell of Amerasians
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floranista in The Secret Garden:
Celebrate Mauro!
November 23

Pssst! There's a party going on in the garden...
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