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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
MadBlast - Rhapsody
A Flash animation from MadBlast: Political Rhapsody

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Valid Targets
"Yeah, I did say they should all be killed, but I didn't really mean it..."
The Canadian Islamic Congress has refused to accept the resignation of its embattled president even as a police hate crimes unit investigates controversial comments he made on television.

The Islamic group's board of directors said in a statement Wednesday that it accepted an apology from Mohamed Elmasry, but rejected his offer to resign. "He has served our community for more than three decades, teaching and preaching tolerance, moderation and equality," the statement said.

"One unintentional mistake does not wipe out an exemplary record of more than 30 years."

Elmasry was a panelist on Ontario current affairs program Michael Coren Live last week when he said any Israeli over the age of 18 could be attacked because they are all members of the country's army.

"Anyone and everyone in Israel - irrespective of gender-over the age of 18 is a valid target?" host Michael Coren asked.

"Yes, I would say," Elmasry responded.

In a release issued later by the Islamic group, Elmasry said he was expressing the view of many Palestinians, not his personal opinion. He said he regretted that his comments "were misunderstood and, as a result, caused offence."
Canadian Islamic Congress rejects president's offer to resign; police launch probe

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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Breaking LGF Rumor: Arafat Definitely Dead
An LGFer that works in the mainstream media says to count on it, Arafat has expired. He is no more. He is a dead man.
#925 Nattering Nabob of Negativity 10/27/2004 04:59PM PST


#895 - No details, really. I don't work for a network, just a local affiliate. We happened to be cooperating with the network today on an investigative piece that touches my local market, and the guy we're dealing with (who has a good track record) mentioned that they have a source on the inside who says he's already dead, but they need more to confirm before they go forward. Then, about fifteen minutes later, I got an alert from somone in a different division with the net, saying to be ready to interrupt programming for a special report tonight on Arafat.

So it's all circumstantial, but it all fits. We'll know soon enough.
Earlier in the same thread, LGFer SoCalJustice also weighed in with
#39 SoCalJustice 10/27/2004 01:17PM PST


The same source who alerted me to this (back in March):
OT and HUGE!!!!

A friend of mine at Reuters just called and said that the IDF just killed Sheikh Yassin. Two explosions were heard and 'Palestinian witnesses' say he was hit and killed.

It crossed the wire on his computer and is being sent to the Reuters customers now.



is telling me to believe the reporting on Arafat's health this time. He says he's hearing that the death could come "at any time."

Maybe fasting for Ramadan has weakened the bastard.

But like most others, I'll believe it only when he's dead.

I hope Chirac and De Villipen have flexible enough schedules to attend the funeral.
and later updated with

#169 SoCalJustice 10/27/2004 01:47PM PST


Latest email from my friend at Reuters:
6 :BC-BULLETIN ARAFAT LOST CONSCIOUSNESS - ISRAEL
RADIO REUTERS 272029 GMT oct 04

My London office feels that these rumors are stronger
than previous.
UPDATE:Xinhua:
Israel will allow Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat go anywhere for treatment after reports said that his health had begun to deteriorate as of Wednesday night, said Israeli officials.
Also from Xinhua: Qrei', 'Abbas and al-Za'noon to take over reins of power:
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who is now in critical condition, has named a three-man committee to take over in his absence, the Qatar-based al-Jazeera TV channel reported. The committee groups Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei and his predecessor Mahmud Abbas and Parliament Speaker Salim al-Zaanoun.

The three men will take over power for the 75-year-old veteran leader in case he needs surgery, the TV report said.

Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is in critical condition and a team of doctors in his Ramallah headquarters were fighting for his life, Palestinian sources said on Wednesday night.

A team of doctors, some of them from Tunisia and Jordan, arrivedat the Muqata in Ramallah to treat Arafat, according to the sources. A Palestinian official revealed that Arafat had collapsed Wednesday, was unconscious for about ten minutes and regained consciousness but remained in "very difficult situation."
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kianb in Pahlaver:
Dissident students in Iran
Mr. Majid Maghdari Amiri, a dissident student and freelance journalist in Iranian North-Eastern city of Mashhad was sentenced to 4 months in jail. The charges against him included "acting against national security" and "disrupting order in the university".

In recent years, Mr. Maghdari Amiri has been reported to be penalized by the university authorities several times for conducting political and human rights activities in the university. The first time, after a gathering in 22 Dec 2002, he was penalized by the university authorities with fines and not allowed to attend classes for 2 semesters. The second time, after the demonstrations of May 2003, he was again penalized with fines, and not allowed to attend classes for another 2 semesters and with banishment to another university, in the Iranian central city of Isfahan.

"The union of dissident students in Mashhad" which I translated some parts of their statement issued to Iranian websites, is asking others to help Mr. Majid Maghdari Amiri and his family in getting a lawyer. If you know how to help them, please send them an email: mfufront@yahoo.com
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Palestinians and Saudis
Oh, look! Apartheid!
Saudi Arabia’s Council of Ministers passed a series of new regulations on citizenship this week that will likely benefit hundreds of thousands of foreigners living in the desert kingdom, with one glaring exception: the "Palestinians."

The new guidelines, which serve to amend Saudi Arabia’s previous law on naturalization, entitle expatriates of all nationalities who have resided in the kingdom for ten years to apply for citizenship, with priority being given to holders of degrees in various scientific fields.

The rules are likely to help as many as one million foreigners living in Saudi Arabia obtain citizenship, said Nasser ibn Hamad al-Hanaya, undersecretary for civil status in the Saudi Interior Ministry. Another Saudi official, Shubaily ibn Majdoue Al-Qarni, who served as chairman of the security committee which supervised the amendment of the law, said that all foreign nationals working in the country would now be eligible to obtain Saudi citizenship.

But citing a report in the Al-Watan newspaper, the English-language Saudi daily Arab News notes that one group will in fact be excluded by the new regulations: the estimated 500,000 Arabs from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza living in the kingdom.

This select sector of Arabs will not be allowed to benefit from the new law, says the paper, because of Arab League instructions barring the Arab states from granting them citizenship in order “to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland?.
New Saudi Citizenship Law Excludes Palestinians

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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Happy Birthday, Jihad Watch!
Robert Spencer's been writing Jihad Watch every single day for a year, today. In one hell of a birthday post-cum-meditation on the media blockade of the truth, he lets on that Jihad and Dhimmitude are gonna keep right on getting Watched by faithful him for at least another year. Beats the hell out of all those other crappy "Something Watch" blogs written by unaccomplished nothings with no talent, no heart and no work ethic. And he's actually watching something that it's very important to watch. In his'n words:
Jihad Watch is dedicated to breaking the media blockade on Islam, and to introducing into the public debate the elements of Islam that give rise to fanaticism and violence, so that both non-Muslims and Muslims can take appropriate action.

It is a small effort, but growing steadily. And it is a samizdat effort because what we say here is not allowed to be said by most major media outlets. Yet it is the truth.

The truth about Islamic radicalism is available now to everyone. They can read books by Bat Ye'or, Ibn Warraq, Serge Trifkovic, and even by me.
We appreciate your efforts, Robert.
On Monday I was in the Cleveland airport, having a casual conversation with a pilot. He didn't know who I was, and I didn't tell him, but he happened to bring up the subject of Islam. He told me it was a peaceful religion that has been hijacked, that the Bible is just as violent as the Qur'an, etc. Has he ever read the Qur'an? Or Trifkovic? Or Ibn Warraq? Or Bat Ye'or? No. And he certainly hasn't read my books. He was just repeating what the media told him.

There are millions of people like that out there. How to reach them? Jihad Watch is one small, very small, effort to do so. But the larger question of how to break the media stranglehold still preoccupies me. Since it is a willful and conscious rejection of the perspective that we bring on the question of Islam and terrorism, I don't have any idea how to break through it -- except to keep on telling the truth, here, day after day.
That's exactly how-persistence. The kind you've shown so admirably. I salute you.
THE problem facing America today: it has become improper and unacceptable to talk honestly about the primary challenge that our nation faces: Islamic terrorism. How will we ever defeat the global jihad if we cannot acknowledge what it is, and where it comes from? Yet this perspective continues to be obfuscated by red herrings: "not all Muslims are terrorists," "all religions can give rise to violence," "you are saying that we must go to war against all Muslims," etc. These caveats are all either untrue or irrelevant, and I have answered them many times here over the past year. Yet they continue to be raised, every day: the Crusades! The IRA! My sweet Muslim neighbor! But how, after all, does the fact that Christians once waged Crusades help us in any way to deal with Islamic jihad today? The government and media establishments continue largely to refuse to acknowledge that there is any problem with Islam itself -- and thus the problem continues to fester for both non-Muslims and Muslims. If you won't admit it's broken, you certainly can't fix it.

So one year of Jihad Watch is complete, and I have signed on for another. The samizdat journalists of the Soviet Union ultimately prevailed; it is not beyond the realm of possibility that we will someday also -- no matter how bleak the situation may seem today.
And for that I am grateful. In fact, I'll be unforgivably greedy and dare to dream that you'll stay with us till we've seen this thing through, Robert. You're an essential voice and I've become a daily reader. And no matter how bleak it seems or how much longer this drags on, I know you'll be there, keeping us apprised of every twist and turn.Go read the whole thing, tell him Happy Birthday and say thanks-and pick yourself up a copy of his book Onward Muslim Soldiers too.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Soon To Be Nuclear Mullahs Laugh At World
via Guysen a few minutes ago:
17:34 After the failure of its conversations with the representatives of France, Great Britain and Germany, Iran confirmed that it refused to suspend the production of enriched uranium. (Guysen.Israël.News)
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Les Portes du Soleil
If France is serious about combating anti-semitism, this seems like a good place to start:
On Oct. 7 and 8, 2004 the Franco-German channel Arte, mostly paid for by the taxpayer, broadcast a very bad French-Egyptian movie by Yousri Nasrallah called "Les portes du soleil". The fact that it was very bad was actually a blessing, for the main purpose of the movie was to show the founders of the state of Israel as moral equivalent to the Nazis.

The movie begins with a scene in a Palestinian school in 1943 where a teacher tells children about "our country, Palestine" and the "Jewish colonisation" going on. 1-9-4-3. Was nothing else happening at that time in Jewish history ? Apparently not, according to Arte.

It goes on: the 1948 war, when Israel barely survived a coordinated attack on the day of her birth by Arab states openly calling for genocide, is described slightly differently. Jews in green-grey uniforms come with tanks and commit mass murders of innocent women and children, burn the villages, pile the clothes of the dead according to size in order to send them to Israel. The Palestinian hero tattoos the date of the slaughter on his own wrist.

This is nauseating. This is unbelievable. Of course the 1948 Jews had neither tanks nor real uniforms - they almost didn't have two rifles of the similar kind, for God's sake ! Arabs were brutalised, some were expelled in militarily important areas just as Jews were expelled from their homes in Arab countries - but indiscriminate slaughter by Tsahal? When, where? And what kind of person could dream up the Nazi analogies, apparent from the color of the uniform, the clothes piled on and the tattoo on the wrist? My God, which side actually had tattooed wrists in this war?

This is nauseating. This is unbelievable. But this is where we are.
The Media War Continues
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
IAEA: Saddam Moved Qaaqaa Explosives Before Invasion
Newsmax reports:
The United Nations nuclear watchdog group first reported that Saddam Hussein had begun moving stockpiles of explosives from his Al-Qaqaa nuclear weapons facility a month before the U.S. invaded Iraq.


The February 2003 report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), first reported Tuesday by the Fox News Channel, severely undermines claims by the New York Times, CBS News and the Kerry campaign that the Al-Qaqaa explosives went missing only after the U.S. gained control of the facility.
There's a detailed timeline at that link as well. Check it out. This is little more than a timed political hit by Bush's enemies-among them, most likely, Mohammed El Baradei.
They point out that 380 tons are 38 10-ton truckloads, and it's doubtful some ghetto-ass "insurgents" managed to spirit that much away during the invasion in the first place.
"If one large truck contains ten tons, U.S. commanders say it's highly unlikely that insurgents managed to take 38 truckloads worth of explosives out of the facility in that time.

"The roads were filled with convoys pushing to Baghdad, clogged with supplies and communications lines stretching all the way back to Kuwait - all being watched closely by unmanned aerial vehicles like the Jointstars and the Predators to protect the troops' rear flank and to spot unusual activity.
No, you need a government to get away with that kind of large-scale, conspicuous evacuation of war materiel. A government that doesn't have the United States of America making war on it just yet.
UPDATE: GOTCHA! Megan McArdle guestblogging Instapundit:
A CLOSER LOOK AT CULPABILITY: The New York Sun reports that the US asked the IAEA to destroy the looted explosives in 1995
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Take No Prisoners? Or: Leftist Judges Shackle The War
We might end up with a take-no-prisoners War on Terror, to the detriment of our intelligence needs, if the Leftist Legal-Bully contingent continues to have its way. Why should our military take terrorists prisoner that it will be forced to release pliable judge-shopping terrorists assisted by enthusiastic America-haters like Ramsey Clark? Henry Mark Holzer reads the tea leaves and sounds a dire warning-this is no way to fight a war on terror. It's not only Israel's courts that are out of control.
Despite our supposedly three co-equal branches of government, the judiciary has always been, with a nod to George Orwell, the “more equal? branch. So, too, in the War on Terrorism, because while the President may direct that war and the Congress may fund it, the courts, and the Supreme Court most of all, make the rules.

As we have just seen, those rules can have potentially disastrous consequences.

Several months ago I wrote in these pages that the Supreme Court’s decision in the Leftist-engineered case of Rasul v. Bush—that Guantanamo detainees had a right to challenge their detention in United States federal courts—augured ill for the War on Terrorism. I have been proved right. In Washington, DC, United States District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly—appointed to the federal bench by Bill Clinton, and as Presiding Judge of the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court by Chief Justice Rehnquist—has just ruled that the detainees have an unfettered right to counsel. Her ruling can best be understood in light of what I wrote about Rasul v. Bush.

Shafik Rasul (and other petitioners in the lawsuit) was captured fighting, or otherwise acting against the United States, outside our borders. They were incarcerated at the United States Guantanamo naval base, and eventually sought habeas corpus relief to challenge their detention—represented by the America-hating Center for Constitutional Rights, preeminent defender of the ruthless radicals (and now terrorists) who would destroy this country.

When the case reached the United States Supreme Court, Justice John Paul Stevens ruled for the Court’s majority (O’Connor, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer [Kennedy concurred in the result]) that: “. . . the habeas corpus statute, 28 U.S.C. Section 2241, extends to aliens detained by the United States military overseas, outside the sovereign borders of the United States and beyond the territorial jurisdictions of all its courts.?

“Thus,? I wrote, “did the Supreme Court liberals, aided and abetted by the turncoat O’Connor and the inconsistent Kennedy, open the doors of every federal district court in the United States to the Guantanamo detainees, many of them killers captured on the battlefield and elsewhere around the world, their murderous hands at least figuratively, and sometimes literally, soaked with the blood of Americans, our allies, and innocent civilians.? I added that:

But unlike the cloistered liberals of the Supreme Court—irony: four of the six justices in the Stevens majority were appointed by Republican presidents—the rest of America must face the music right now. Armed with the Supreme Court’s Hamdi (due process) and Rasul (habeas corpus) decisions, and aided and comforted by radical lawyers like Clark, Cohen, Stewart, and their America-hating colleagues, the flotsam and jetsam of Guantanamo Bay, and perhaps other enemy combatants held from Afghanistan to who-knows-where-else, can now forum shop among our 94 federal judicial districts in search of judges sympathetic to tales of mistaken identity and religious persecution—anything to justify the habeas corpus petitioners’ release.

Elsewhere, I argued that since the Guantanamo detainees now had a right to seek habeas corpus relief in federal district courts, the Left’s next legal maneuver would be to secure counsel for them, complete with all the related constitutional and statutory guarantees of the client-attorney relationship
.

That is what has just happened, and the implications are horrific.
What, then, are we to do? Read on to find out, although I imagine you can begin to guess.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Texas Invades France
Stan at Logic and Sanity points out a possibly untrue, but definitely amusing story via the NYPost's Page Six:
ROBIN Williams may have helped avert an international incident in Paris recently when a bunch of rowdy Texans took down the French tricolor flying over their hotel and replaced it with the Texas flag. A mob of outraged French citizens outside the Hotel del Crillon who witnessed the flag prank were set to exact vengeance on the Texans when Williams happened to walk through the lobby and quickly sussed out what was going on, claims our source. The star supposedly thrust himself into the fray as an impromptu negotiator. Appropriately enough in the hometown of famed mime Marcel Marceau, he acted everything out in pantomime, assuring the locals that their flag would be immediately restored to its rightful place. With both sides laughing so hard at the frenetic funnyman's antics, hot tempers quickly cooled and everyone ended up shaking hands."
The story is questionable because Robin Williams' spokesman claimed Robin didn't know a thing about it.
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