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Redwatch
Redwatch is a UK site that lists addresses and photographs of anti-fascists and anti-racists alongside the slogan "Remember places, traitors' faces, they'll all pay for their crimes." The site has a section targeting "red journalists", reporters who cover BNP rallies or anti-racist demonstrations, and it encourages members to intimidate and threaten them. I guess fascism and freedom don't mix.
Redwatch was launched in 2001 and takes its name from a Combat 18 newsletter produced in London in the 1990s. For the first few years it was just another online talking shop for hardline racists and fascists, offensive and unpleasant but apparently not dangerous. However, in April 2003, those behind the site signalled that Redwatch meant business. Leeds school teachers Sally Kincaid and Steve Johnson had been involved in local campaigns against the BNP and other far-right groups for years. Then their personal details appeared on Redwatch following a demonstration they had attended in the Pudsey area of the city. A couple of weeks later they suffered a fire-bomb attack at their home, which left their car burned out.
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In limbo no more
I didn't know centuries-old church doctrine could change so easily: Pope tries to win hearts and minds by saving souls of unbaptised babies.
Christians hold that Heaven is a state of union with God, while Hell is separation from God. They have long wrestled, however, not only with the fate of unbaptised children, but also with the conundrum of what happened to those who lived a “good life” but died before the time of Jesus.

The answer since the 13th century has been limbo. What remains in an uncertain state, though, is the status of all the pre-Christian and unbaptised adult souls held by some still to be in this halfway house between Heaven and Hell.

The Pope is expected to abolish only “limbus infantium”, where the souls of unbaptised infants go. The precise status of “limbus patrum”, where the good people went who lived before Christ remains . . . well, in limbo.
What did Christians believe before the 13th century? And why did they change?
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