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daily archive: 09/24/2005
zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Israel Strikes Back
Did Hamas think they could keep firing rockets at Israeli towns and run for office as if nothing was wrong? And did Abu Mazen think Israel would stand by forever while he refused to disarm his fellow terrorists? Israel launches strikes against Hamas.

(a thimbleful of cognac to packen)
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Shameful move by Chicago
I know my hometown leans left, but I thought it was also a sensible place. I certainly didn't expect it to join the ranks of Berkeley and San Francisco in antiwar lunacy. Every sentence in this thing reeks of political opportunism and cheap points scored.
On September 14, 2005, Chicago approved a resolution calling for an "immediate and orderly withdrawal" from Iraq by a vote of 29-9.




WHEREAS, The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 was passed by the U.S. Congress on October 11, 2002, and that Public Law 107-243 cited Iraq’s possession of weapons of mass destruction as a primary reason for the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq; and

WHEREAS, On January 12, 2005, President Bush officially declared an end to the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; and

WHEREAS, The United States initiated combat operations in Iraq on March 19, 2003; and

WHEREAS, Hundreds of thousands of members of the United States Armed Forces have served with honor and distinction in Iraq; and

WHEREAS, More than 1,700 members of the United States Armed Forces have been killed and more than 12,000 members of the Armed Forces have been wounded in substantially accomplishing the stated purpose of the United States of giving the people of Iraq a reasonable opportunity to decide their own future; and

WHEREAS, The United States military occupation of Iraq has placed significant strains on the capacity of the United States Armed Forces, both active duty and reserve and the National Guard.

WHEREAS, The armed forces of Iraq number more than 76,000 troops as of June 8, 2005, and are growing in number and capability daily; and

WHEREAS, The forces of the Iraqi Interior Ministry number more than 92,000 personnel as of June 8, 2005, and are growing in number and capability daily; and

WHEREAS, More than $200 billion has been appropriated by Congress to fund military operations and reconstruction in Iraq, and Chicago residents’ share now exceeds $2.1 billion; and

WHEREAS, The funds spent by Chicago taxpayers on the war and occupation in Iraq could have provided Head Start for one year for 238,056 children; or medical insurance for one year for 1,076,242 children; or 31,147 public school teachers for one year; or 16,183 additional housing units, according to the National Priorities Project; and
WHEREAS, The war and continued occupation have resulted in the devastation of Iraq’s physical and social infrastructure and led to widespread and continuous resistance to U.S. occupation that threatens the lives of Iraqi civilians and the men and women who compose the ranks of U.S. and other occupying forces; and
"the war and continued occupation" led to these things, not the terrorist insurgency led by Al Qaeda. Noted, you gun-grabbing, bribe-taking surrender monkeys.
WHEREAS, The presence of United States forces in Iraq and the alleged torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and other facilities have inflamed anti-American passions in the Muslim world and increased the terrorist threat to United States citizens, both at home and abroad; and
Is there a suicidal-left shibboleth that they didn't think to put in?
WHEREAS, Polls show that less than half of the American people support the war; and
I know! How about "WHEREAS, war is not healthy for children and other living things, and

WHEREAS, it would be great if schools had all the money they need and the Air Force had to hold bake sales to buy bombers,"...
WHEREAS, Illinois Congresspersons Rush, Lipinski, Emanuel, Davis, Schakowsky, Jackson, Gutierrez, and Costello joined more than 100 other Congresspersons in voting for a House resolution on an Iraq exit strategy; and

WHEREAS, On January 2003, the Chicago City Council passed a resolution 47-1 opposing the war in Iraq prior to its commencing in March 2003; now, therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED, That the City Council of the City of Chicago, on behalf of the citizens of Chicago, urges the United States government to immediately commence an orderly and rapid withdrawal of United States military personnel from Iraq; and
Not on my behalf, you pricks.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the City Council of Chicago, recognizing that the stability of Iraq is crucial to the security of the citizens of Chicago and to all Americans, urges the United States government to provide the people of Iraq with all necessary non-military material aid as shall be necessary for the security of Iraq’s citizens and for the rebuilding of Iraq; and
Let's withdraw, but give the Iraqis all the money they need-but no soldiers-to rebuild and be secure!
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the financial resources used to prosecute the war be redirected to address the urgent needs of America’s great urban centers and the most vulnerable portions of our population, including health, education, and homeland security; and
Also, let's not give them any more money, because we need it! Ignore the last thing we said about giving them all the money they need!
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That a suitable copy of this resolution shall be sent to George W. Bush, President of the United States, and the members of the Illinois Congressional delegation.
I'm sure President Bush will have a good time crumpling up this inane piece of blather and throwing it in the trash.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Usual Suspects
Rally in Washington, blah, blah, Cindy Sheehan, blah, blah, blah, Joan Baez, blah, blah, blah, blah, Bush Lied Thousands Died, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and old hippies. And then the rain came and they all went home. Antiwar Protests Commence in Washington
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Broken People of India
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
'Your family does not meet the policies of admission'
A Christian school expelled a 14-year-old girl because her parents were gay. I understand that it's their policy and maybe they have many coveted spots in that school that should go to a kid with straight parents. On the other hand, if the school feels that being gay is so immoral, then what child is more in need of a moral Christian atmosphere than one who is born into a gay family? Also I'd like to know, was Jesus really that exclusive that he would shun a child because her parents were gay?
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
A Conference on Genocide
I thought it was a good sign when Yusuf Halacoglu, head of the Turkish Historical Society, asked for a multi-national inquiry to look into the Armenian genocide. He may not have been as outspoken as Orhan Pamuk but it was encouraging to see that leading voices in Turkey were willing to speak up about coming to terms with the past. However, last week an Istanbul court banned a conference about the genocide. The conference moved to another location where hundreds of Turkish nationalists protested, waving flags and chanting slogans, such as "This is Turkey, love it or leave it."

(a thimbleful of cognac to barnstorm)
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guest author: packen in Discarded Lies:
This GA post is inspired by AM42's comment some time ago on how he discovered bloggie and has been gracing us with his presence ever since. I’m sure all of us have fond memories of the momentous day/hour/second which brought all of us here and harkened the end of a normal life as we knew it. I’ll go first:

I was introduced to LGF by Pete (Alois) some time in 2003. Internet forums were not new to me, but until then I limited myself strictly to canine politics, which can get quite nasty and even dangerous. I immediately got hooked on LGF. What shocked me the most was the outpouring of support for Jewish causes from the gentile contingent, I didn’t know anyone cared. I believe one of the first posts I read was from Darlene, and it made me totally farklempt. I didn’t post much, as I was totally intimidated by the caliber of commenters at that time, and having the slowest dial-up piece of junk for a computer, by the time I got to the bottom of comments zulubaby already said what I was going to say, and all the funny people made the same hahas I was going to make.

After a while I became puzzled by occasional comments like: “I wonder what evariste would’ve said about this?", “I sure miss evariste...", “Has anyone heard from evariste lately?", “I wish evariste came back...". WTF is this evariste chick, I thought, and what is so special about her? (just kidding). So I searched through comments, slowly and painstakingly, until I was totally in love. Then evariste came back and I was quite surprised to find out that he was an Arab, and even more shockingly, just a babe. (zorky, I’m sorry, I didn’t follow the LGF Watch Watch, so I fell in love with you much later).

Then, of course, came the Rathergate with millions of overlays on top of overlays, the elections, and it became too much for me. I read the entries and occasionally did the “Ann" thing with “evariste". That’s how I found out about bloggie and, naturally, jumped right on. I got there right in the thick of things, the POO Guest Author shitstorm. The exchanges between ev and JD were simply heartbreaking and brought more than one tear to my eye until I realized that JD was nothing more than an emotional blackmailer.

I totally agree with zorkie’s policy of not banning commenters no matter how irksome they may be. After all, when was the last time we heard from POO (Stormy without any sense of humor, arghhh...)?

Anyway, I better sum this up–looks like ev is done flagellating poor bloggie and we are back in business.

zorkie and ev, I know what you are doing and you’ve succeeded more than you know. I love you, guys!

Your turn, comrades.

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guest author: papijoe in Discarded Lies:
Part I: Return to the Netherlands
The tramp freighter paused within sight of the Erasmus Bridge while it awaited permission to dock at at Rijnhaven. His servant had boarded with the pilot from Maasvlakte, thanks to a generous bribe. The Persian had suggested returning with the pilot's launch and making their way into the city from the container terminal, but his employer preferred to disembark closer to the city.

What the tall figure in the down vest and watchcap wouldn't admit to the Persian was that he couldn't resist seeing the city from the dawn mist of the harbor. The bridge appeared first like a spider's web. The outlines of the city emerging from the fog were hauntingly familiar.

"This probably isn't how you pictured your triumphant return." The tall man smiled indulgently. The Persian was younger than him, and his father had been in the family's service before him. They were directly descended from the Sassanid warrior caste that composed the first armored cavalry in history. He was still at heart a Zartoshi knight.

"It's time we had a talk about that." The tall man said. "The rumor of my return has been useful in securing the assistance we need, and you remember my instructions not to be explict about that being our goal. We actually have a more important task, but discussing it now wouldn't be prudent."

The tall man regretted keeping the true purpose of his journey from his servant, but the Persian didn't require an explanation, and it would jeopardize both there lives and the mission itself if he knew.

"Do you have the ID?" The Persian passed him the identification card with his picture that would allow him access to the Erasmus University library as a professor from Maastricht. He had already memorized the legend that would hold up under casual scrutiny.

"How is your new job?", the tall man asked to pass the time as the ship headed for the dock.

"I don't mind the work. The Arabs hate me when they find out where I'm from and the Dutch are all football hooligans who chant "Gas the Jews" at Feyenoord games. Miserable bastards all!"

"Have you been able to convince your union contacts to assign you to the construction site we have in mind?"

"I'm working on it. It's not a big site, so the jobs are limited."

"Pity we didn't train you as a plumber when we had a chance" It was a private joke.

The mate that had hired the tall man as a ship hand and was also paid generously not to ask a lot of question had appeared on the deck. "It's best if we get you two off the ship right away."

(To be continued)
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