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A theology of integration
A conference about Islam's future in Europe brought together more than 150 European-based imams and religious leaders to discuss how Muslims can integrate in Western societies and still retain their Islamic traditions. While some participants spoke of reinterpeting Islam to fit a European perspective, most everyone agreed that any significant changes are still a long way off.
"It requires a whole new field of thinking," said Ayatollah Sayed Abbas Ghaemmagami, the chief Shiite Muslim mufti in Germany.

Others suggested more outreach to Christian groups and churches in Europe to explore common spiritual heritage, or requiring teachers in mostly Muslim schools to introduce lessons that stress the children's European bonds.

"We should bring them up to understand that this is their home," said Ahmed al-Rawi, president of the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe. "And that non-Muslims are part of their family."
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Will Jonathan Pollard go free?
Esther Pollard: Bush is Willing to Free Pollard This Week
Speaking on Channel Two's Monday morning television talk program, Esther Pollard said, "Someone who is very close to President Bush came to me last night and said that Bush is ready to free Jonathan even in time for the upcoming Passover holiday [which starts Wednesday night] - as long as Olmert makes an official request."
I hope Olmert makes an official request and I hope Pollard is freed before Passover. Do you think it will happen?
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100 percent Zuluboy
Jacob Zuma, former deputy president of South Africa and icon of the anti-apartheid movement, is on trial on charges that he raped the daughter of a family friend. Check out his excuse:
Taking the stand for the first time last week in the rape trial, Zuma cast himself as the embodiment of a traditional Zulu male, with all the privileges that patriarchal Zulu traditions bestow on men. Zuma, who turns 64 this month, said his accuser, a 31-year-old anti-AIDS advocate, had signaled a desire to have sex with him by wearing a knee-length skirt to his house and sitting with her legs crossed, revealing her thigh.

Indeed, he said, he was actually obligated to have sex. His accuser was aroused, he said, and "in the Zulu culture, you cannot just leave a woman if she is ready." To deny her sex, he said, would have been tantamount to rape.

Such arguments have stirred a storm here, not because he insists that his accuser wanted sex - he-said, she-said arguments are not unheard of in rape trials worldwide - but because he has clothed them in what he depicts as African mores about sex and male primacy.

In South Africa, by far the most Western of African nations, the accord between centuries-old cultures and European notions of science and law has been both uneasy and unspoken. Zuma has laid it bare, effectively arguing that he is being persecuted for his cultural beliefs.
A zulu's last line of defense: Heritage
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Pak PM: “no link” between Islam and terrorism
The accompanying picture of him is priceless, reminiscent of Comical Ali:
NEW YORK: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has rejected any link between Islam and terrorism as he called for addressing the root causes of the scourge of terrorism.

"It is very much incorrect and a mistake to link Islam with terrorism," he said in an interview with American TV in New York. Shaukat also said that nobody knew about the whereabouts of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Shaukat Aziz said it is incorrect and a mistake to link Islam with terrorism. “We owe it to ourselves to see why people behave in this extreme way. As citizens of the world, we need to address the fact - What are the root causes of terrorism?” *

Talking on US air strike in Bajaur tribal region Aziz said that it was natural the people of Pakistan were upset that innocent civilians were killed and there could have been people hiding there. But our forces could have handled it in a much more amenable manner, without getting the emotions of the people of the area worked up. So that’s why we were disappointed and upset and reflected our feelings and views to the US government."

Replying a question about Osama bin Laden Pakistan’s PM said that nobody has a clue where he is. Nobody knows whether he’s alive or not, and if he’s alive, where he is."

The Pakistani prime minister talking on the subject of the nuclear intentions of Iran said: "Our view is that Iran should not get into production of nuclear weapons at all... They have every right to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, but that should be done under supervision of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
*You're reading from a discredited playbook, Shawkat old boy.
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