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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
An accidental murder
Jamal Derrar, the guy who burned Sohane Benziane alive in a housing project near Paris, was not convicted of murder, he was convicted of "acts of torture or barbarity that led to unintentional death". So when he poured the gasoline all over the 17-year-old girl and then set her on fire with a lighter, he apparently didn't mean to kill her, it was an accident. When his friend locked the door while Sohane was screaming as she was burning to death, that was an accident too. When Jamal bought the gasoline the day before and informed his friends and the neighbourhood that he was going to "torch" Sohane, he didn't really mean it, his intentions were good. And anyway, girls need a little torching now and then to keep them in line.

Jamal got 25 years in prison and his accomplice got 8 years. Their supporters (yes, they have supporters) wept and called the sentences "too heavy."
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Breaking news: San Francisco may be the world's gayest city!
A survey found that San Francisco has the highest percentage of gay men among major cities in the world. What's bad is that a quarter of them are HIV-positive.
McFarland has compiled the city's first survey in five years on gay men and HIV to be presented at a meeting next week to discuss HIV/AIDS prevention.

He said it found an estimated 63,577 gay males aged 15 and above in San Francisco, a city with a total population of 764,000. That figure represents nearly one in five of the city's males above the age of 15.

0ne out of every four gay males -- 25.8 percent -- is infected with the HIV virus, giving San Francisco an estimated total of 16,401 HIV-positive men, said McFarland, an epidemiologist who has also worked on studies in Uganda, Zimbabwe and Egypt.

The survey indicates that the overall percentage of those living with HIV has dropped since the last study five years ago.

"The major changes since 2001 are that, first of all, the gay community has grown. It's largely been an influx of more HIV-negative gay men that are here," he said. "It used to be near 30 percent.

"The absolute number of gay men living with HIV has crept up partly because of ongoing transmission and partly because of improved survival with treatment," he added.
Ongoing transmission? I would think that members of the gay community would know better by now.
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guest author: Mauro in Discarded Lies:
A long and hard look
Time to tell each-other some truths.
If “they” are horrible, we are abysmal.
Which does not mean we are that guilty that we have no moral ground to retry. We must bang on and on. Two, twelve, or twohundredandfiftyfour mistakes still don’t make 1 right.
But guilty we are, let’s have a hard look.

What have we done for the Arabs/Muslims?
Before we go any further have a read of this and tell me, honestly, if that is not (shall we say) “semi-partially-probably-occasionally-true”?

Democracy.
You what? Let’s be brutally sincere; at least with ourselves. It’s about money. Oil. Its derivatives.
If it ever were about Democracy, we’d have stipulated little hang-ups in our contracts regarding the way the huge revenue was spent.
If it were about Democracy, we’d have a Western Cartel to command a buying price and not an OPEC to command a ransom.
If it were Democracy, aid would be tied to reforms but instead is used to appease a ruling class who, in turn, keep their populace hungry to pressurize us into ever paying more. Democracy is expensive; you have to go through stuff and that. It takes years. It can be bloody. Big business wants the buck now, not in 30 years, dear.

Freedom.
Stop being naive now. If it was about Freedom, why do we pay corrupt regimes (Egypt anybody?) to plod along or ignore and trade with them to make the money? If it was about Freedom, why is Mc Donald, Coca-Cola, Gucci, Ferrari, enterprises that can only culturally thrive in free countries, selling expensive bags and cheap burgers even in little dictatorships like little Tunisia? (forget reigns of terror like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria etc)
Freedom to buy from us is about the only freedom we are interested in and that is why their markets are a lot more open than their societies.

What we really gave them is Capital-tribalism.
This strange texture of Capitalism at its worst and Tribalism at its normal which gives us a society where culturally semi-illiterate people, mortally hostile to change and modernity, have access to most modern technologies and life-styles.
Hence the Mullah and the mobile phone, the Imam and the Internet, Ali Jihad and Ipod, Hamas and government, in a Mc Donald in Saudi drinking a coke well separated by women dressed like permanent mourning, breeding creatures raised in a poisoned, isolated environment.
And what do we do instead of insisting in schoolbooks?
We sell them Barbie dolls.

We have failed ourselves long before and after they failed us.

Our civilisation is so more advanced that eventually we will succeed anyway. It would be anti-historic, against the natural progress of humanity and thereby impossible for “them” to win. (worst case scenario, we nuke each-other, we both lose) (shut it M-Max, give it a rest)

But our mistakes, our continued indecision, our ill-hidden greed, is costing blood and it’s hurting.
It’s hurting our finest of youth who perishes in a faraway, ungrateful land and it’s hurting the innocent blown away by a blast in a mosque, a train, a bus, a wedding or a disco.

Yes they’ve had corruption forever, yes they’ve always been completely oblivious to any notion of freedom, yes they’re still culturally semi-primitive and drowning in analphabetism as they were 1000 years ago and yes they are very resistant to change for the better…….but what they did not have before is someone there to talk freedom and instead do a lot of business and sponsor financially the very people that oppresses them. What they did not have before is a role model (our societies to emigrate into) that kept their oppressors going.

If we are not serious about Freedom, how could they be?
It’s not the dog that teaches the trainer the tricks…
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