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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
A Theological Dialogue
I'm for anything that works in combating terrorism yet I consider the idea of using dialogue as a weapon inane at best. But what if?
When Judge Hamoud al-Hitar announced that he and four other Islamic scholars would challenge Yemen's Al Qaeda prisoners to a theological contest, Western antiterrorism experts warned that this high-stakes gamble would end in disaster.

Nervous as he faced five captured, yet defiant, Al Qaeda members in a Sanaa prison, Judge Hitar was inclined to agree. But banishing his doubts, the youthful cleric threw down the gauntlet, in the hope of bringing peace to his troubled homeland.

"If you can convince us that your ideas are justified by the Koran, then we will join you in your struggle," Hitar told the militants. "But if we succeed in convincing you of our ideas, then you must agree to renounce violence."

The prisoners eagerly agreed.

Now, two years later, not only have those prisoners been released, but a relative peace reigns in Yemen. And the same Western experts who doubted this experiment are courting Hitar, eager to hear how his "theological dialogues" with captured Islamic militants have helped pacify this wild and mountainous country, previously seen by the US as a failed state, like Iraq and Afghanistan.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Update on private Joe Adams
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Protected, Even If Unpopular
Ward Churchill is in no danger of losing his tenured position:
Legal experts on free speech in the academic workplace are betting that Ward Churchill's job is safe - at least against attempts to oust him because of his opinions.

Although some members of the public have said that Churchill shouldn't be allowed to work for the taxpayer-supported University of Colorado, he actually is safer there than at a private university, according to Denver lawyer David Miller, former legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Colorado and now in private practice.
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"If the Constitution doesn't protect against the most offensive kinds of theories or arguments - and let us talk more about them so that members of the public can hear every side of an issue and make their choices as to what beliefs they should or shouldn't trust or act on - then the value of our Constitution is lessened," Miller said.
I don't see this as a First Amendment issue. Yes, the U.S. Constitution protects even hateful idiots - and I wouldn't have it any other way - but this guy is teaching eighteen-year-olds and he has a moral and ethical responsibility to them; promoting casual anti-Semitism shouldn't be part of it. Frontpage has an excellent article on Ward Churchill and the Politics of Campus Extremism

(a thimbleful of cognac to evariste)
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Has Anyone Told Hamas?
Israel, Palestinians to Declare Truce
The Israeli and Palestinian leaders will declare a formal end to more than four years of fighting at Tuesday's Mideast summit, both sides said Monday. Israeli and Palestinian negotiators finalized the agreement during last-minute preparations Monday.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Prohibition in the Netherlands
Imagine the principal of your son's high school telling him he's not allowed to have the American flag on his backpack because it would anger the Mexican students. Ok, I'm being facetious about the American flag and Mexican students. However in Holland...
Cals College in IJsselstein has prohibited two of it's students to have Dutch flags on their bags.

The 16 year old boy and his friend where told by the director of their school that they "urgently should consider" to remove the Dutch flags from their bags, it could provoke other students, mainly Moroccan students. The two considered the urgent request of the school as a prohibition.
Read it all: DutchReport: Dutch flag prohibited!

Via Beautiful Atrocities
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
How Goering Escaped Justice
A former US Army private who was a guard at the Nuremberg trials says he gave convicted Nazi war criminal Hermann Goering the poison capsule that enabled him to commit suicide two hours before his scheduled execution, according to a US newspaper report.


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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
How's This for Chutzpah?
At the international counterterrorism conference - Israel was not invited - Iran says Bush is the terrorist, Syria is saying Israel is the terrorist and the Saudi Islamic Affairs Minister issued an edict condemning suicide bombings as an act of terror. But he added that if they were done while "fighting occupation," then it's ok. From Clarity & Resolve: How to Call a Spade a Spade
As representatives from more than fifty states meet in the belly of the jihad beast to have a little chat about terrorism, one thing is clear: Not everyone is very clear on who should be called a terrorist.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Frieder Brothers
As the Nazis took power in Germany and the world turned its back on Jewish refugees, four brothers who ran a cigar factory in the Philippines worked quietly to help 1,200 Jews flee to Manila.




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zorkmidden in Bloggies Of Our Lives:
Episode 301,434,742
militarybrathusband: Honey, I'm done vacuuming and I've put the dishes away. Would you like me to bring you the bonbons now?

militarybrat: No, I'm bored with bonbons, let's do pushups.

militarybrathusband: Yes, dear.

militarybrat: And then we'll take a short 10-mile jog by the gym.

militarybrathusband: Yes, dear. (Eyes the bonbons. Eats one hurriedly while militarybrat is starting on their one-hand pushups.)

Meanwhile, in the barn...

Gustav: Achtung Ali, vat is that?

Ali: Oh Gustav, vat, vat? vat is it? You're scaring me!

Gustav: Someone vas looking through the vindow!

Ali: Oh Gustav, hold me!

Cut to outside in a green field, children and dogs playing happily...A spaceship lands silently in their midst. The door opens and a tall, decisive man steps out.

Tall, decisive man: psst, kid...

militarybratkid: Hey, you're back! I told my mom you'd be back!

Tall, decisive man: Oh man! You weren't supposed to tell! What did she say?

militarybratkid: She asked me why I was wearing a bra on my head.

Tall, decisive man: Oh ok, good, so she thinks it's a bra.

militarybratkid: Yeah man, don't worry, she's got no idea what it really is.

Tall, decisive man: Ok, so we're safe. Say...you got any potatoes?

militarybratkid: They got some in the diner. Why are you always eating potatoes?

Tall, decisive man: Sigh...it's a long story...I'll tell you during our intergalactic trip.

militarybratkid: So what's your name, mister?

Tall, decisive man: There's so many of me, I can't keep our names straight, kid. Call me Thousand Sons for short.

To be continued...
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Winds of War Monday: Up!
Another Monday, another Winds of War: Feb 07/05...this week it was all me (with some help from lovely and talented zorkie) because Bill Roggio is lowering the boom on Eason Jordan. Topics include but are not limited to:
Iran courts Palestinian leadership; Taiwan notices Chinese missile buildup; Russia and China admit the obvious: they're sleeping together; Robocop; Tony Blair suddenly tough on immigration because he's about to face the voters; US and Israel may be conducting surveillance into Iran; Halliburton, BP and GE will not do any more business with Iran; Rumsfeld says Iran is "years away" from a nuclear weapon; Iran not happy with Rice's "threats"; Saudi Arabia trying to reform Islamists; Rice's plans for a Palestinian "viable" state; Colorado seeks 4 illegal truckers; South Americans think local government is good government; 3rd world gangs, 4th generation warfare; fugitive Venezuelan general caught; Jacksonville security; Khartoum's grip loosening further; More Beslans promised; Danger to India from Nepal developments; Singapore anti-maritime terrorism unit launched; Abu Sayyaf kidnapper caught; Madrid bombers sold drugs to pay for it; French jihadi cannon-fodder; Iranian terrorist infrastructure in the Balkans since the 90s; Communist informers and spies list leaked onto internet by Polish journalist; How the Euroblob will eat us all; NK gave Libya uranium; US troops get training in counterterrorism in India; lessons learned from eavesdropping on terrorists and more...
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