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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Holocaust Denial in Iran
From the Tehran Times:
Undoubtedly, the Nazi concentration camps were not holiday resorts and imposed various difficulties on the prisoners, just like any other detention camps in other wars.

Many people in these camps, including innocent men, women and children, died of hunger, illness, and other causes.

The victims were from different nations and ethnic groups, including the Jews, who also lost many people, but the Jews were not the only victims of the war and a greater number of innocent people from other ethnic groups also lost their lives.

The issue of the Holocaust and the anniversaries held for the event are only meant to promote the repressive policies of the Zionists.

The Jews suffered as a result of Hitler’s expansionism, just like other innocent victims but should not be granted special privileges over the others.

The declaration that six million Jews were killed in World War II is an exaggeration of the truth.

Lies of the Holocaust Industry
Hey, I have an idea! Let's pretend we're sophisticated Europeans and start diplomatic relations with these lovely people.

Via Israel midnight cafe
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Infidel West
A refreshingly honest cartoon.

Via Power and Control
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Another Communist wall shows signs of crumbling
China's Communist government imposed remarkable, drastic censorship on the Chinese internet after Zhao Jiyang died. It's backfired on them-big time. China's citizens are screaming over their lack of freedom to express themselves and learn the truth, and they know that they're being lied to. President Bush is right to say this:
America will not pretend that jailed dissidents prefer their chains, or that women welcome humiliation and servitude, or that any human being aspires to live at the mercy of bullies.
because the Chinese have had enough of their bullies, and their dignity is outraged by this infantilizing treatment. I had chills reading some of these people's plaintive pleas for truth and freedom; you will too.
China's leaders may have convinced themselves that the country's relatively new, albeit unbalanced, material prosperity will be enough to keep an uneasy population from peering into some of the darker corners of the country's Communist history. And the popular reaction (or lack thereof) to purged former leader Zhao Ziyang's death last week appears to prove them right at first glance. The relative tranquility does make it appear as if young Chinese, intoxicated by the opportunities of China's dizzying economic growth, don't really understand -- or care -- about what really happened at Tiananmen Square in 1989, or why Zhao's sympathies with the student protesters led to his downfall.

But that is not exactly the case. Increased access to information through the Internet, which is just one of the many fruits of China's development, is producing a predicament for China's leadership.

China's pragmatic leaders undoubtedly saw allowing widespread access to the Internet as necessary for growth, but hoped to rein in its power by using firewalls to block "unsavory" information. But the Internet has only endowed citizens with a heightened awareness of the amount of information that is being blocked.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Sharon Loses His Mind
We really need a "WTF?!" category:
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is poised to pardon two PA officials with proven ties to terrorism, including one of the planners of the fatal November 2000 bombing of an Israeli school bus.

Rashid Abu Shabak, second-in-command of the PA Preventive Security Services in Gaza, is one of two senior PA officials wanted for their involvement in terror attacks whom PM Sharon has reportedly agreed to remove from Israel’s list of wanted terrorists. The other terrorist leader to be pardoned will be Tawfiq Tirawi. This will be a “good-will gesture? toward Abu Mazen and the PA.

The two terrorists to be pardoned have far-ranging terrorist experience. Israel possesses a tape of Abu Shabak discussing plans for the bombing of the school bus with the mastermind of the attack, Preventative Security Service chief Mohammad Dahlan. Abu Shabak also oversaw and coordinated the preparation of the bomb used in the attack.

The attack on the school bus killed two Israeli teachers and seriously wounded three young children from the Cohen family of nearby Kfar Darom; all three children lost part of their legs.
And there's more: Sharon Gambles on Abbas by Capitulating to Hamas’ Terms

Shame on you, Arik.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
A Bus Ride To Remember
WTF?!
A bus driver shuttling pupils to school in northern Greece shocked their parents when he put on a porn tape, officials said on Thursday.

The incident on Tuesday in the town of Kilkis prompted dozens of complaints by parents who have asked the bus company to fire him.

"The driver said 'kids we've got porn, do you want to watch it'," one of the pupils told reporters. "Everyone started shouting yes, yes and he just put in a tape and we watched it on the small TV screens on the bus."

The children were aged 12 to 15.

The bus company will meet on Friday to decide what action to take against the driver, local government officials said.
The Porn Tape on the Bus Goes Round and Round...
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Gobsmacking Mexican Effrontery
Mexico may ask international courts to block Arizona law (a thimbleful of cognac to zorkie for this one)
MEXICO CITY - Mexico may turn to international courts in an effort to block a new Arizona law limiting services to illegal immigrants, Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Wednesday.

He said in a radio interview that Mexico might take such a step after it has exhausted all possibilities under U.S. law to halt Proposition 200.

"We are seeking all the legal opportunities that exist, first using the legal capacities of the United States itself and ... if that does not work, bringing it to international tribunals," Derbez said.
I suggest starting a war-crimes tribunal. We could call it Nuremtaco.

He did not specify to which international bodies Mexico could appeal.
Heh. Keep looking, guys.

Mexico's Foreign Department and lawmakers have repeatedly complained about Proposition 200, which voters approved in November. The measure requires proof of citizenship to vote and proof of immigration status to receive some government benefits.

Derbez said the government already has made a verbal protest to the United States and now will file a written protest at the request of Mexican lawmakers. He did not say when it would be issued.

He expressed regret that, according to polls, about 40 percent of Mexican-Americans in Arizona had supported the measure.

"It's sad and it gives an idea of how we have to work to educate even our own Mexican-Americans about why it is important that these proposals are not accepted," Derbez said.
Or maybe "your own" Mexican-Americans could educate you about law-abiding, uncorrupt societies.

In December, the Foreign Department issued a statement expressing "complete rejection" of the proposition, calling it "a measure that could generate actions of discrimination based on ethnic profile."
Uh huh. I "completely reject" this jawdropping chutzpah.
Update: Stan has this one too.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Terrorism: Nixon-Era Prescience
Here's a nice fact-based counterargument to the idea that we can't predict or prevent black swans (see my previous post for an explanation of that)-CNN.com - Nixon-era panel envisioned terrorist attacks:
Nearly three decades before the September 11 attacks, a high-level government panel developed plans to protect the nation against terrorist acts ranging from radiological "dirty bombs" to airline missile attacks, according to declassified documents obtained by The Associated Press.

"Unless governments take basic precautions, we will continue to stand at the edge of an awful abyss," Robert Kupperman, chief scientist for the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, wrote in a 1977 report that summarized nearly five years of work by the Cabinet Committee to Combat Terrorism.

The group was formed in September 1972 by President Nixon after Palestinian commandos slaughtered 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games. The committee involved people as diverse as Henry Kissinger to a young Rudolph Giuliani, the once-secret documents show.

"It is vital that we take every possible action ourselves and in concert with other nations designed to assure against acts of terrorism," Nixon wrote in asking his secretary of state, William Rogers, to oversee the task force.

"It is equally important that we be prepared to act quickly and effectively in the event that, despite all efforts at prevention, an act of terrorism occurs involving the United States, either at home or abroad," the president said.

The full committee met only once, in October 1972, to organize, but its experts did get together twice a month over nearly five years to identify threats and debate solutions, the memos show.

Eventually, the group's influence waned as competing priorities, a change of presidents ushered in by Watergate, bureaucratic turf battles and a lack of spectacular domestic attacks took their toll.

But before that happened, the panel identified many of the same threats that would confront President Bush at the dawn of the 21st century.
read it all, it's very interesting. Also check this related story out from the Las Vegas Sun, with even more stunning scenarios envisioned back then. Las Vegas SUN: AP: U.S. Foresaw Terror Threats in 1970s
Car bombs are set along one of New York City's busiest streets, timed to explode as the Israeli prime minister arrives. A tipster warns that FBI agents questioning suspected extremists in Chicago are in danger. Another informant claims terrorists are planning attacks on Los Angeles synagogues.

It sounds like the "threat matrix," the Bush administration's weekly summary of potential attacks.

But these threats were compiled in weekly CIA reports more than 30 years ago for the Cabinet Committee to Combat Terrorism, a Nixon-era task force created after the killings of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic Games in Munich.

"The scenarios were there in the early 1970s," said Brian Jenkins, a senior Rand Corp. adviser who wrote one of the earliest reports on the long-term future of terrorism. "The scenarios are still here in the early 21st century."

The Associated Press reported Sunday that declassified documents it obtained show the task force envisioned in the 1970s many of the same terror threats that would greet President Bush decades later.

Intelligence reports from the FBI and CIA that were sent to the Cabinet panel back then show officials feared a terror attack would reach America's shores, perhaps carried out by Palestinian extremists.

"Although terrorist activities have taken place primarily in Europe and the Middle East, rumors and unconfirmed reports indicate that a Palestinian cell dedicated to violence is in place in the U.S. and allegedly is plotting with unnamed American extremist groups, some spectacular acts against American nationals and/or businesses," said one threat assessment compiled by the panel in fall 1972.

"These acts could be in the form of a bazooka or a suitcase rocket-launched attack against aircraft landing, loading or waiting to take off; a massacre at an airport similar to that experienced at Lod Airport, Tel Aviv, or the hijacking of an aircraft for the purpose of destroying it and its passengers if demands for the release of Arab prisoners are not met," the report said.

In the years after Munich, secret weekly situation reports compiled by the CIA show counter-intelligence officials worried about:

- A plot to attack an Israeli airliner on the ground in New York City with submachine guns and rockets. The FBI source reported that weapons were being held by Libyan or Iraqi diplomats, and that an attack would probably occur during the Passover season.

- A plan by Black September to sink a Miami-based cruise ship with 400 U.S. passengers en route to Israel to celebrate the Jewish high holy days.

- A threatened murder of a Greek Orthodox minister in Detroit if he didn't influence the Athens government to release terrorists held in Greek jails.

- A potential assassination of former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, who was visiting the University of Utah.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Survivor: Auschwitz could be prologue if we aren't careful
Will We 'Never Forget'? (washingtonpost.com)
When the ghetto liquidation in Bialystok, Poland, began, only three members of our family were still alive: my mother, my little sister and I, age 13. Father had already been executed by the Gestapo. Mother told me to put on long pants, hoping I would look more like a man, capable of slave labor. "And you and Frieda?" I asked. She didn't answer. She knew that their fate was sealed. As they were chased, with the other women, the children, the old and the sick, toward the waiting cattle cars, I could not take my eyes off them. Little Frieda held my mother with one hand, and with the other, her favorite doll. They looked at me too, before disappearing from my life forever.

Their train went directly to Auschwitz-Birkenau, mine to the extermination camp of Majdanek. Months later, I also landed in Auschwitz, still hoping naively to find their trace. When the SS guards, with their dogs and whips, unsealed my cattle car, many of my comrades were already dead from hunger, thirst and lack of air. At the central ramp, surrounded by electrically charged barbed wire, we were ordered to strip naked and file past the infamous Dr. Josef Mengele. The "angel of death" performed on us his ritual "selection" -- those who were to die immediately to the right, those destined to live a little longer and undergo other atrocious medical experiments, to the left.

In the background there was music. At the main gate, with its sinister slogan "Work Brings Freedom," sat, dressed in striped prison rags like mine, one of the most remarkable orchestras ever assembled. It was made up of virtuosos from Warsaw and Paris, Kiev and Amsterdam, Rome and Budapest. To accompany the selections, hangings and shootings while the gas chambers and crematoria belched smoke and fire, these gentle musicians were forced to play Bach, Schubert and Mozart, interspersed with marches to the glory of the Fuhrer.

In the summer of 1944, the Third Reich was on the verge of collapse, yet Berlin's most urgent priority was to accelerate the "final solution." The death toll in the gas chambers on D-Day, as on any other day, far surpassed the enormous Allied losses suffered on the beaches of Normandy.

My labor commando was assigned to remove garbage from a ramp near the crematoria. From there I observed the peak of human extermination and heard the blood-curdling cries of innocents as they were herded into the gas chambers. Once the doors were locked, they had only three minutes to live, yet they found enough strength to dig their fingernails into the walls and scratch in the words "Never Forget."

Have we already forgotten?

I also witnessed an extraordinary act of heroism. The Sonderkommando -- inmates coerced to dispose of bodies -- attacked their SS guards, threw them into the furnaces, set fire to buildings and escaped. They were rapidly captured and executed, but their courage boosted our morale.

As the Russians advanced, those of us still able to work were evacuated deep into Germany. My misery continued at Dachau. During a final death march, while our column was being strafed by Allied planes that mistook us for Wehrmacht troops, I escaped with a few others. An armored battalion of GIs brought me life and freedom. I had just turned 16 -- a skeletal "subhuman" with shaved head and sunken eyes who had been trying so long to hold on to a flicker of hope. "God bless America," I shouted uncontrollably .

In the autumn of their lives, the survivors of Auschwitz feel a visceral need to transmit what we have endured, to warn younger generations that today's intolerance, fanaticism and hatred can destroy their world as they once destroyed ours, that powerful alert systems must be built not only against the fury of nature -- a tsunami or storm or eruption -- but above all against the folly of man. Because we know from bitter experience that the human animal is capable of the worst, as well as the best -- of madness as of genius -- and that the unthinkable remains possible.

In the wake of so many recent tragedies, a wave of compassion and solidarity for the victims, a fragile yearning for peace, democracy and liberty, seem to be spreading around the planet. It is far too early to evaluate their potential. Mankind, divided and confused, still hesitates, vacillates like a sleepwalker on the edge of an abyss. But the irrevocable has not yet happened; our chances are still intact. Pray that we learn how to seize them.
Over at Edge, Nassim Taleb says we should learn to expect the unexpected, and that any early-warning monitoring system will miss outlier ("Black Swan") events, and John Robb agrees. But as a conservative, I think we can at least predict this: that human beings will continue to discover stunning new ways to do (and be) evil.
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guest author: Jefe in Discarded Lies:
Traveling Around Ireland With The Band - Day 5
Day 5 - Sunday
Dublin - Wexford

Some brave souls slept for two hours and did a quick tour of Kilmainham Jail, where political prisoners were kept until it was closed in 1924. Julie & I had seen it last year, so we chose sleep instead. It was an incredibly powerful experience, walking through the old stone halls, with bitter cold winds passing through the open transoms and windows. We stood on stones in a courtyard where children were given their one-hour daily exercise of walking in circles before being returned to their cells; underneath the stones, many of those children were buried. In the next courtyard, we stood where the Easter Rising leaders were lined up and shot, including James Connolly, who had been previously shot in the leg during the fighting. He was strapped to a chair and executed.

Back to this year, and happier times. After leaving Dublin, we stopped in Avoca for lunch and shopping. Avoca, in County Wicklow, is known for its hand woven goods. After Avoca, we lamented that Jimmy Jimmaayyyyy was on Bus 2, not our Bus 1. He really fit in more with the loud, obnoxious drunkards. We tried to pass on our wisdom, as Joe the piper taught him how to make a bishop's hat out of the removable head rest cover. We watched as Bus 2 left, with Jimmy walking around blessing the other riders.

We soon had a goal: overtake Bus 2. Joe the driver obliged, and, as we passed, Bus 2 riders got a nice surprise. When Bus 2 in turn passed us, only Jimmayyy was brave enough to defy their driver's order and return the favor. We took a brief break at a stop overlooking Vinegar Hill, where 20,000 Wexford Pikeman made a last stand against Cornwallis' forces. The Bus 2 riders also tried to place faces with moons.

Julie and I had dinner at the hotel, where we ate with a couple from New England, Buddy & Gail. Buddy was a retired house painter, and probably could have drank any of us young whippersnappers under the table. Gail was one of the nicest ladies on the tour. They sat accross from us on Bus 1 and seemed to be enjoying the antics. After dinner, the night's concert, the last of the tour, was conveniently in the hotel banquet hall. Larry Kirwan, lead singer/songwriter for Black 47, grew up in Wexford, so the show was a homecoming for him, with quite a bit of family & friends attending. After the show, the hotel gradually herded us into the residents' bar for a semi-private party, where they'd keep us safely away from the rest of the hotel guests. Marion found me in between and said the Neck folks were bringing their acoustic instruments into the bar for a jam session, and she'd bring her extra violin for me. I couldn't wait!

Julie & I made our way to the residents' bar. A little later, the Neck members walked in empty-handed. The hotel staff had stopped them and wouldn't let them bring in their instruments, saying the bar wasn't soundproof. Apparently, acoustic instruments make more noise than 80 some loud drunks with the bar stereo blaring. So, we had to entertain ourselves.

At 4AM, they kicked us out of the bar. Actually, they didn't really kick us out, they just stopped serving, so they may as well have kicked us out. We weren't ready for sleep, so about 10 or 15 of us headed to Christine's room, where she said she had beer. Unfortunately, she also had 2 roommates sleeping, plus Marion crashing. After waking them up, telling them to go back to sleep, and collecting the beer, we convened in the middle of the room to figure out what was next. I looked around the group and realized that our room was the only one without sleeping roommates, including the Neck & Black 47 members who were with us. Julie & I made eye contact, and in about a second we had one of those wordless sibling conversations:

Me (or her, doesn't matter): Oh, crap. We're the only ones without sleeping roommates.
Her: I know. I don't want our room trashed, but there's no other choice.
Me: Yeah, I guess that's the only choice, since going to bed is not a viable option.
Her: Right, let's do it.

So, we ended up back in our room, drinking Christine's beer, telling jokes, farting, and seeing who could make the most realistic fart noises. Our neighbors accross the hall joined us, which was fortunate, since P2 (the Black 47 Tour Manager) soon passed out on his feet. We put him to bed in their room. I noticed that Joe the piper had brought his bodhran. I had talked earlier with him about it. I had been playing the bodhran for about a year and was ready for an upgrade from my entry level inexpensive model, and he highly recommended his, a Remo Brian Howard drum. I asked if I could try it out, and we ended up having a little 6AM jam session in my hotel room, with Stephen from Neck and Joe alternating low whistle (I also play, but not nearly well enough to jam with them), and the three of us alternating on the bodhran. So, we had our session after all, just not like originally planned, and no fiddlin'.

We soon realized that it was time for breakfast. On the way out, we could hear P2 snoring through the closed door. We checked in on him and found him dead to the world. Now, Joe was having a great time posing with P2 for goofy pictures. But Stephen had an idea to make things even more hilarious. In his dignified English accent, he told Joe, "You know what be really funny, Joseph? If you put your c*ck in his mouth." Stephen later clarified that "it wouldn't be gay if there's no kissing." Even if Joe wanted to that to the poor guy, he was too busy laughing and imitating Stephen to do it.

to be continued...
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Liberation of Auschwitz
Raphi is a high school student in Toronto who's participating in the January Blogburst. Check him out: Remembering the Wannsee Conference and the Liberation of Auschwitz

(thanks NY Nana)
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