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Ziggy the tattletale
Reason #4,947 why dogs make better pets: Mouthy parrot 'reveals sex secret'.

Poor Ziggy... He did what every good, smart, responsible parrot would do and what does he get for his troubles? He gets given away.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Dirty Dancing
Abu Hamza is very worried that young Muslim women will succumb into temptation if they watch John Travolta dance or move his stomach. I don't know if John Travolta has a special way of moving his stomach but I doubt that many women, even oppressed Muslim women, would do much more than yawn at some lame Travolta movie from 30 years ago.
"This brother he's a mujahid [freedom fighter] and she looks at him and says, 'Oh look, his forehead is black, probably he's praying'. She likes John Travolta, who is dancing and moving his stomach as quick as the – as I don't know what – and she likes that because if he was wearing the proper dress which has been imposed on him by Muslims, she wouldn't even think about him," Hamza said in a taped address.
Something tells me Abu Hamza likes Travolta. Maybe he wishes he was an actor and a dancer like Travolta but since he's missing a hand and an eye, I suspect that his only other career option is jihadi Islamic political analyst. Here is Abu Hamza's thoughtful examination of the relationship between the West and Israel:
`Why (do) they act like sugar daddy for Israel? Because they love the Israelis? No way!

``Because they hate them very much, but the Israelis know how to deal with them,'' he said.

``They got a file for each one of these politicians, how much homosexual you are, how many money he has taken as bribe, whom his wife goes with, which child he has been abusing, and they got all this against them." "Jews know how to control people."
I won't name names but a certain person on this blog better be careful; the Israelis know how much homosexual he is.
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Israel: prepared and able to attack Iran by March
To recap a previous post, there have been more and more interesting deployments by the USAF to the Middle East, both in number (a wing has 72 planes; we just sent 5½ × 72 over there) and in kind (F-117a, F-16C/D, F-15E, A/OA 10). Five entire fighter wings: the 388th, the 49th, the 122nd, the 4th and the 18th. On top of that, two fighter squadrons (four=a wing, I think, so this is another half-wing) have deployed for four month rotations in recent days: the 336th and the 355th. And now, Israel is making far more belligerent noises than we've been accustomed to hearing with regard to Iran. We've gone from Israel saying "this is the whole world's problem" to this: Israel prepares to launch attack on Iran nuclear sites. Things are heating up fast.

correction: the 336th is part of the 4th wing, and therefore redundant, being already included in the count. The 355th is part of the 3rd Wing (which is under the Pacific Command and not CENTCOM, interestingly enough) and therefore is "interesting".
ISRAEL is set to strike nuclear targets in Iran if the United Nations fails to take action against the rogue state, intelligence sources claim.
Military chiefs have told the United States that they are ready and able to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons facilities - with an attack as early as March.
Israeli military chiefs say their plans to strike Iran's nuclear sites are "feasible", say intelligence sources.
They claim the Israelis are certain that an attack by their military machine would be as effective in destroying the Iranian project as it was against the Iraqi Ossiraq nuclear site in 1981. An Israeli missile attack would be expected to set back Iran's nuclear weapons programme by up to 10 years. The new government of acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also wants President Ahmadinejad to understand that the incapacitation of Ariel Sharon, following his stroke, would not affect Israel's state of military readiness.
A recent statement by the Israeli military chief of intelligence, General Aharon ZeeviFarkash, indicated that Israel had set a March 1 time limit for diplomatic means to deter Iran's plans. Sources in Tel Aviv say the general's remarks were based on a military planning timetable and could indicate a likely date for the missile strike. General Dan Halutz, Israel's chief of staff, said last week that there were several military means to deal with the problem.
He ordered a report as part of strategic cooperation talks with the United States and it was discussed recently when senior Israeli military figures met the heads of several US intelligence agencies.
Israeli air force fighter pilots have been training for the past 10 years to survive antiaircraft and radar threats from Soviet antiaircraft systems which have been sold to Iran and other Middle Eastern states.
The Israelis have also received help from former Soviet or Russian anti-aircraft officers who emigrated to Israel.
The Israeli air force also chose recently to reveal details of its cooperation with Iran's neighbour Turkey, including the deployment of Israeli fighter jets there and Turkish squadrons in Israel as part of a joint training programme.
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A modest proposal
A while back, Matt (Colt), who never fockin' blogs any more, asked me how I thought an attack on Iran might go. I told him my lunatic theory, and he laughed at it, but I think it makes a lot of sense, and in the light of recent developments, I think it's worth throwing out there (in light of recent US deployments that make an Iran attack seem imminent-F-117a Nighthawks and F-16C/D Wild Weasels are on their way to the area, which is pretty much all we need).

Matt wanted to know what my fantasy effective attack on Iran might look like. Here are my thoughts: the Iranians think their biggest weapon against us is the oil weapon. We must disabuse them of the notion that oil can be used effectively as a weapon against the United States. One of their trump-cards is the ability to block shipping through the Hormuz straits. We should bomb every installation they have near the Hormuz, overnight, to ensure that Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Iraqi oil can get through. I mean total devastation of anything that even looks like it might be a military asset aimed at denying shipping through that strait, especially the Silkworm missiles which they bought from the French. Destroy them from the air before the Iranians have a chance to use them. Two, and this one is a stretch. Not only should we keep the Straits of Hormuz accessible to friendly shipping: we should be bombing the living fuck out of Iran's oil infrastructure. All of it. Every single oil field should be put out of commission. Sherman's lessons have been forgotten, but we can recall them with a little effort.

The United States of America can afford for oil prices to go to exorbitant levels a lot more than China and Europe can. Our economy is less and less brittle when it comes to fossil fuel prices, and we bounce back fast. We have the dynamism; we have the money. Americans can't really afford it for oil to go to $250 a barrel, but we can afford it a lot better than the Euros and the Chinese can, and we can sustain the damage for a lot longer. We can do this. It's time to really sacrifice in this war. The thing is, for each dollar we sacrifice, our friends in Europe and China will have to sacrifice a lot more than we. In game theory terms, we can win even though we're behaving seemingly suicidally. Let's let Iran, and every other shithole fossil-fuel nation, know that we are no longer intimidated by the oil weapon. We'll destroy it ourselves if need be. We Just. Don't. Give. A Fuck. And we can afford not to give a fuck a lot better than Iran's trading partners and enablers in Europe and China can. Iran can only afford its military and nuclear program because of oil. Let's take that away from them. As for Europe and China, let's show them what it really means to oppose the interests of the United States of America. And let's dip into that Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which can keep us moving for 120 days if the Iranians somehow manage to block Hormuz. And let's make Europe and China bear the cost of their complicity in nuclear proliferation. I'd rather pay $250/barrel oil for a year or two (and more importantly, make them pay it) than lose NYC.

Our war is as much with the mullahs as it is with France, Germany and China. We have to bring them to heel, fast.

The final part of my Iran plan is for each and every ruling mullah's house to be bombed, preferably with him in it. For each and every Iranian nuclear scientist to be killed, because there is no such thing as neutral science, and any Islamic Revolution scientist must die for enabling the Iranian genocidal fantasy. The idea is that people like Saddam's Dr. Anthrax, what's-her-name, will not survive the first month of bombing, and if they do, they're targets for assassination for the rest of their lives. There have to be serious personal disincentives for helping a shithead regime like Iran attain nuclear status. And for each and every nuclear installation to be bombed to oblivion. And for explicit US support of Iranian revolutionaries, including the Mujahideen e Khalq and the various student movements. We simply have to wage total don't-gives-a-fuck war. Half measures won't do.

Israel can't be involved in the Iranian action because she'll have her hands full dealing with Hezbollah, Syria and Hamas. We'll let them take care of that. So that's my war plan. No ground troops, just special forces, an air and sea war, total denial of all enemy assets. You got a better idea?
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Commercial-grade explosives found in an LA canal
In a sign that a terrorist plot may have been foiled or derailed recently in the Los Angeles area, a few days ago, environmental divers checking on algae growth in a canal near L.A. found seven commercial-grade explosive blasting caps. Can you predict what "authorities" said? That's right...
Authorities did not know why the explosives had been placed there, but said terrorism was not suspected.
Argh!

Well, who would have thought environmentalists would contribute (in a very minor way) to the war on terror? Certainly not I.
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Bolton-Annan 1-0
I'm very curious to hear Annan's answer to this one:
The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations reportedly asked Secretary General Kofi Annan to explain why he posed in front of a map that leaves out Israel.

The New York Sun reported Friday that John Bolton wrote to Annan asking him why he attended a U.N. event, “The International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People," that featured the map. “Given that we now have a world leader pursuing nuclear weapons who is calling for the State of Israel to be wiped off the map, the issue has even greater salience," the Sun quoted Bolton’s Jan. 3 letter as saying.

Annan’s speech at the Nov. 29 event noted that Palestinian terrorism against Israelis was an obstacle to Palestinian progress. Bolton wants funding to be cut to the U.N. groups that organized the event, which are solely devoted to promoting the Palestinian cause.
What do you think Annan will say?
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'No Nuke to the Mullahs'
Iran has resumed its nuclear program and doesn't seem to be too worried about the consequences. What would the consequences involve? If Iran gets referred to the U.N. Security Council, the worst that can happen is that the council will impose sanctions and Iran doesn't take the threat of sanctions seriously since sanctioning Iranian oil would hurt the Europeans as much as it would hurt the Iranians. And according to an Iran analyst, a military confrontation is out of the question.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: So the big lever to force Iran into compliance is the threat of a military strike?

Sadjadpour: A situation like you see in Iraq -- a full-blown military confrontation -- is out of the question. Iran realizes that, the US realizes that. The second possible issue is what's called 'surgical strikes,' and I think given the precedent of Osirak, Iraq's nuclear reactor which the Israelis bombed in 1981, the Iranians have dispersed their sites throughout the country. Some of them are underground, so it's not quite clear that if there were surgical strikes, that they would be constructive. You don't know if you've got the right sites; there might be clandestine sites you don't know about. So I think, from the standpoint of the West, neither of those options is very good.
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