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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Greeks Cannot Be Turks and Turks Cannot Be Greeks-Or Can They?
How many times do I gotta tell you: there are no minorities in Greece and here's another court decision to prove it:
January 14— A Greek court Thursday upheld a ban on one of the country’s Turkish minority groups, saying that an association it had formed served the interests of Turkey.

Greece’s Supreme Court ruled in favour of maintaining the ban of the Turkish Association of Xanthi, on the grounds of national security, the AFP news agency cited officials as saying.

Greek prosecutors had sought to have the association banned on the grounds that by using the word Turkish in its name it served the interest of a foreign country in the attempt to appear a Turkish minority in Greece.

Xanthi, a town in the north west of Greece, is home to a large number of Turks of Greek nationality who are part of Greece’s 100,000 strong Turkish speaking Muslim minority.

The association was first banned in 1984, with the appeals process taking some 20 years. The decision of the Supreme Court cannot be appealed.
Representatives of the Turkish Association of Xanthi say they pose no threat to Greece or anyone else.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
Iraqi-Born Israelis Could Possibly Be Barred From Election
Iraqi Jews who live in Israel are eligible to vote in the upcoming Iraqi elections but that doesn't mean they'll be allowed to. Israel doesn't have a polling station since it's not a country recognised by Iraq, and Jordan may or may not accept Israeli documents stating the voter's place of birth.
As Iraqi polling stations were set to open in Jordan and in 13 other countries for expatriate Iraqis to register to vote from Monday until next Sunday, officials running the Amman station were unclear Sunday if they would accept Israeli documents stating that the bearer was born in Iraq and allow Israelis to vote in the elections.

Just last week the Independent Electoral Commission for Iraq (IECI) announced that Israeli descendants of Iraqi Jews were being offered the possibility of voting in the first free democratic elections in Iraq.

The elections, due to take place from January 28 to January 30 at 14 polling stations in Iraq and around the world, are open to all ethnic Iraqis, the head spokesman for the ICI, Farid Ayar, told The Jerusalem Post.

But an Amman official said the Post interview with Ayar – in which he said there is no polling station in Israel because Iraq doesn't recognize Israel – cast confusion on whether the Amman polling station will accept the documents of Israelis who turn up.

"I don't know what to do," said Albert Eini, 76, a Baghdad-born Israeli who immigrated here in his twenties and now lives with his wife near Tel Aviv. "I can't find any Iraqi identification and I heard they don't recognize Israel and won't accept our Israeli IDs."

Iraqi-Israelis had already gotten their hopes up after initial reports said that Israelis of Iraqi descent could vote in the elections. For the elderly members of the community, Iraq has been an untouchable dream and the possibility of voting was a way of making contact with their former country.

Eini, like many of them, didn't have any idea who he would choose to sit in Iraq's National Assembly. "I don't know who I'll vote for – Lawi, Allawi – but I want to join the Iraqi people [by voting] because I love the Iraqis and I love Iraq," he said. Eini said he gets angry when he sees on TV that Iraqis are killed.

The elderly man, who considers himself an "Arab-Jew," immigrated with his family, as did most of the Iraqi Jews in the early 1950s. As part of the agreement between Iraq and Israel at the time, Iraq allowed them to leave if they gave up their citizenship.

But the eligibility rules established by the IECI say that even if one who disclaimed Iraqi citizenship may still vote in the elections.

If Israeli identification documents are not accepted at the Amman polling station, most of the Iraqi-born Israelis will not be able to vote since most of them left their Iraqi documents behind in Iraq.
Jordan polling station could bar Iraqi-Israelis from historic election [bugmenot]
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
More On Wahhabi Desecration Of Islamic Holy Sites
I last reported this here. I found some more details at Accuracy in Media about the specific destruction being visited on shrines.

In June of last year, the Islamic Supreme Council of America, (ISCA) called for the support of the world community, UNESCO and the United Nations to stop the destruction of venerated Muslim relics in Saudi Arabia. They issued two press releases detailing the damage being done. Three months later the Wall Street Journal covered the issue in a front page report, and the Weekly Standard followed suit, but a LexisNexis search turns up no other coverage.

ISCA revealed that the city planning board of Medina, Saudi Arabia, which is dominated by a notoriously extreme-Wahhabist mayor and city-planning commission:

Painted the famous green dome of the Holy Mosque of the Prophet silver, knowing that its original color is revered by all Muslims. After intense protest from the citizens of Medina the board restored the dome to its original green.

Ordered the destruction of five of the renowned "Seven Mosques" initially built by Prophet Muhammad's daughter and four of his "greatest Companions": Masjid Abu Bakr, Masjid Salman al-Farsi, Masjid Umar ibn al-Khattab, Masjid Sayyida Fatima bint Rasulillah and Masjid Ali ibn Abi Talib.

Ordered pulling down of "Al-mukabariyya," the elevated location for the call to prayer in the Holy Mosque of the Prophet, built by Umar bin Abdul-Aziz in the 8th century.

Demolished the home in which the Prophet grew up, turning that site into a public restroom.

They had already built a library over the house in which he was born. Then they planned to destroy the structure completely.

Destroyed an 18th century Ottoman fortress, despite protests from Turkey. (This was the only action that received a little press coverage.)

The destruction of the birthplace of the Prophet was mentioned in the Saudi newspaper al-Bilad in May, just as Muslims around the world were outraged over media reports of American "desecration" of Muslim sites in Iraq.

So obsessed were the media with American "desecration" that reporters failed to perceive a bigger picture at play: the expanding influence of Wahhabist fundamentalism in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, via the destruction of holy sites and artifacts, and what that means for the world.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
An American
Until that night, the only history I knew of America was a skewed tale of unchallenged dominance of the white race, first over Native Americans, then over the African slaves. On the news, after the siege of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, we had heard that the African-American staff was given the chance to leave, because they, too, had been "oppressed by the Great Satan." On TV, we watched reruns of documentaries on the KKK. A Tehran street was renamed after the Congolese leader Lumumba, assassinated by the CIA! As for American black leaders, Malcolm X was the man we knew best: a martyr!

I lay still, watching, as my smug confidence dissipated before my eyes. Discovering the gaps in my knowledge had disarmed me: There was a man I knew nothing about, who was black as black could be, and had ultimately succeeded.

Today, in the distant corners where terror is raging, many teenagers hold views on America similar to those I once held. The enemy has an arsenal, but also a narrative. According to that narrative, the world's superpower represents only one race, and its history is a single tale of intolerance, arrogance, and domination. The war against this enemy is impossible to win without defeating that narrative. To tell American history in its entirety is to disprove the fabrications about who an American is. To tell the story of the Civil Rights Movement is to tell the story of how arrogance was made to give way to justice by none other than a man who advocated peace. Against the grim and infallible image that is painted of America, this will be a truer portrait: colorful and human.
Dr. King and I
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kianb in Pahlaver:
US Commandos are Inside Iran.
The noted New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh has reported that US special forces are operating inside Iran for the last 6 months. Searching for sites in a plan for future air strikes. They have been aided by the informations from the government of Pakistan. He says that he is told by intelligent officials at Pentagon and the suburbs that the next strategic target by the Bush administration is Iran.

“This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush Administration is looking at this as a huge war zone,? the former high-level intelligence official told me. “Next, we’re going to have the Iranian campaign. We’ve declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah—we’ve got four years, and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism.?

The White House called it "riddled with inaccuracies". The question is however, will they succeed to hold it in secrecy anymore?
BBC has a story too.
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Iran Claims Not To Execute Minors
I don't buy this for a moment. Besides, they don't seem to have a problem executing people with the mental age of 9. zorkie's blogged about this before, especially Atefah Rajabi (16), whose execution was confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Iran issued a fierce denial on Tuesday that it was executing criminals under the age of 18 or stoning people to death, dismissing as foreign propaganda reports that such punishments were continuing.

"In the Islamic republic, we do not see such things being carried out," judiciary spokesperson Jamal Karimi-Rad told reporters.

"Bringing up the issues of stoning and the execution of under-18s comes from outside the country and is aimed at distorting the image of the Islamic republic," he said.

The spokesperson, however, did not rule out the possibility that such sentences were being issued by certain courts. However he said they were invariably quashed on appeal or by the Supreme Court - which has to approve all executions - and stressed "no such verdicts have been carried out."

No sentence of stoning has been carried out in Iran for more than a year, with the practice seeming to have been suspended since the end of 2002 following a direct order by the judiciary's head, and under pressure from the European Union. The EU has made human rights a part of its ongoing effort to engage Iran and negotiate closer trade ties.

In a recent case, the stoning verdict for an Iranian woman, identified as Hajieh Esmailvand, was stayed pending a decision by the pardons commission. The woman had been convicted of murdering her husband.

Human rights activists and diplomats have said that while Iran appears to have respected a moratorium on stoning, there have been cases of minors being executed.

Murder, armed robbery, rape, apostasy and serious drug trafficking are also punishable by hanging in Iran.
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zorkmidden in Discarded Lies:
The Greater Zionist Project
Today's myth of the day from the Islamic press: This morning's Tehran Times claims that Israeli settlers are seeking to take over land in Turkey for the "greater Zionist project". This article, like so much written about Israel in the Middle Eastern (and also in large parts of the Western) media is of course preposterous, but nevertheless will no doubt be believed by many.

The immediate aim of articles like this is probably less to offend Israel than to try and stir up opposition among Turks to their government's relatively warm relations with Israel.

The article quotes Al-Jazeera as reporting that "the Zionist regime has made a proposal to establish a Jewish settlement in Turkey in southeastern Anatolia."

As a result of this "news," the paper said, "A wave of concern swept over Turkish citizens and political circles after the news was reported, since the Zionist regime's current policies remind them of Israel's usurpation of Palestinian territories and its slogan [sic] about the so-called Greater Israel: 'From the Nile to the Euphrates.'"

According to the report, "The Turkish magazine Nokta warned the Ankara administration of the risks entailed by Israel's plans. The magazine disclosed that 60 Jewish people living in southeastern Anatolia where a dam is under construction, goaded on by the Zionist regime, purchased some plots of land with a total area of 423 square kilometers, i.e., half the size of Turkey's largest city, Istanbul."

The article claimed that "Many Turkish political analysts have voiced their deep concern about the Zionist regime's activities in northern Iraq" and concluded that "Clearly, Turkey will face a serious predicament if it does not deal with the issue promptly and decisively."
Silly Zionists...once again they overlook Hawaii for some other godforsaken country.

Latest Islamic hoax: Zionists starting settlement in Turkey
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evariste in Discarded Lies:
Another Monday, Another Winds Of War
Winds of War: Jan 10/05 featuring yrs truly and Bill Roggio of the fourth rail. Topics include:

Potent Syria nuke program (thanks, Iran!);India has really nice missiles;Israel-Russia-USA spat over Igla missiles;Russia and China get chummy;Al Qaeda brings it on with the fancy analysis;Iran soon to enrich uranium;Iranian agent arrested in Kuwait;IAEA finally to inspect Parchin;Nobelist Shirin Ebadi summonsed to Revolutionary Court;overview of Iranian terror sponsorship;IDF resumes operations in PA;US makes cross eyes at Syria;Israel to build an antitunneling moat;diminishing returns for Al Qaeda in Saudi;Israeli contacts with Abu Mazen suspended;GIA, GSPC and ETA dying;GIA's lessons for the Iraq situation;EU prepares to resume arms sales to China;Azerbaijan soon to war with Armenia?;US forces redeploying very soon in Eastern Europe;Bali style bombing threatened in London;USA-Russia MANPAD control accord and more...
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