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Bridge in Brooklyn for sale
How reassuring: Pakistan has taken all "appropriate actions" to break up the secret nuclear network run by Abdul Khan.
"Pakistan is very sorry and is very upset and has taken all appropriate action in dismantling the underground network," Kasuri said. "Dr. A.Q. Khan has fallen from the high pedestal that he had," he said, adding that Khan had already been "treated very harshly."
The very harsh treatment is house arrest. A blogger's life, in other words.
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If you don't do as God says, you'll get a stroke
Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson suggested Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine punishment for "dividing God's land."

"God considers this land to be his," Robertson said on his TV program "The 700 Club." "You read the Bible and he says `This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, `No, this is mine.'"
Robertson Links Sharon's Stroke to Wrath. So if Sharon had pleased God he would have lived forever? I find the idea that illness is a divine punishment, reprehensible at best.
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Is Sharon Dead?
Right Wing Conspirator found a report at israelinsider that asserts that Sharon's doctors and the Ministry of Defence have been informed that Sharon is dead.
Mor-Yosef was not reporting any untruths, but neither was he addressing the critical issue of brain function, a subject which has been studiously avoided by all hospital officials.
One of the factors in the cloud of uncertainty regarding the announcement of brain death, media sources speculated, relates to the effect of the announcement on stock markets.
Another reason was a supposed regulation preventing publication of the PM's death except by the official representative of the government, presumably the Cabinet Secretary Yisrael Maimon.
Perhaps the most important reason for the delay is to allow time for the preparation of a state funeral and the invitation to world leaders to attend. According to the expected schedule, Channel 10's Emmanuel Rosen reported,Sharon will be detached from one or more of his life support machines in the next day or two, with the likelihood that he will not be able to survive without support. At that point, Rosen, "the most difficult" decision would need to be made.
According to Channel 10, the official death announcement is planned for Sunday, when world markets are closed, assuming that this will suffice to accommodate the travel plans of A-list world and Jewish leaders.
"Israel Resource News Agency confirms that at about noon today, Israel time, doctors at Hadassah Hospital and security officials at the Israel Ministry of Defence in Tel Aviv were simultaneously informed that Prime Minister Sharon had died during surgery.
Israel Resource News Agency has again spoken with officials from both Hadassah and the Israel Ministry of Defence who were officially informed at noon of Sharon's death.
May God have mercy on his soul, if there's truth to this report.
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Postmortem
I don't know if Sharon, who is currently in an induced coma, will live or die (I suspect he will live, but in a greatly reduced capacity). I do have a very strong hunch that Kadima is dead and that Likud will lead Israel's next government. Omri Ceren isn't as bullish on Likud as I am, and he has a detailed crib sheet if you're catching up with where Israeli party politics is at in a hurry, like me. My instinct is that Israelis have rejected "the Oslo crew" fairly thoroughly, and that only Sharon had enough residual goodwill to drag a reluctant, weary, right-leaning public to the center.
Sharon in induced coma

Ariel Sharon is expected to remain in an induced coma for at least 24 hours to relieve pressure on his brain.

Dr. Shlomo Mor-Yosef, director of Hadassah’s Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusalem, said Thursday that the Israeli prime minister is in critical condition after suffering a serious stroke Wednesday night and undergoing more than eight hours of emergency brain surgery.

“His condition is still serious but he is stable," Mor-Yosef said. Mor-Yosef also denied rumors that Sharon had died.

This was Sharon’s second stroke in less than three weeks. Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert took over Sharon’s powers and convened a Cabinet meeting Thursday.
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Tehran will host a Holocaust conference
No, it's not a joke; all the best revisionists and deniers will be there: Iran has decided to rewrite and revise the history of the Holocaust
Following the repeated declarations by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and other senior government officials on the need to re-examine the history of the genocide of the Jews during the Second World War, the association of Islamic Journalists of Iran has been tasked with quickly putting together an international conference on the Holocaust.

"President Ahmadinejad has placed at the centre of international attention, a very important question on the truthfulness of the version that Europe and the Zionists have imposed on the world on the murder of Jews during the years of the great war, and therefore we are of the opinion that it is useful and necessary to organise an international conference on that theme, where all the historians and researchers, even those that do not believe in the official version, will be able to express themselves freely," Mehdi Afzali, spokesperson of the Association of Islamic Journalists told Adnkronos International (AKI).

"We want to offer a free and democratic platform to the historians to examine in-depth this myth, seeing that in different European countries there exist laws against democracy and freedom that to do not allow intellectuals who believe in a version distinct from that which is officially pronounced on the Holocaust," added Afzali.

"We will invite those who believe in the imposed version as well as all those who have spent years of their lives in the study of documents related to the Holocaust and have come to the conclusion that the history books in schools and universities do not correspond to the truth," said Afzali, who however refused to supply the names of the revisionist historians who have been contacted to appear in the conference in Tehran. Revisionists are those who deny that the Holocaust ever happened.

In Iran, books by the English historian, David Irving, currently in custody in an Austrian jail after having been accused of denying the Holocaust, are very popular.

Among the names of possible guests at the conference are the Israeli journalist lsrael Shamir, a convert to Christianity, and Horst Mahler from Germany, a former member of the the terrorist group, the Red Army Faction. Other revisionist scholars, such as the French Robert Faurisson and the American Arthur Butz, are also some of the other possible participants of the conference in Tehran.
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Treating Alcoholics with Alcohol
Free booze makes homeless healthier? An Ottawa program has been providing free alcohol to homeless alcoholics for the past three years and is seeing some measures of success. That is if you count success as not going to jail or hospital. Their addiction is not being treated and they're not receiving any help to re-enter society sober. Is it worth it to treat homeless alcoholics by giving them free alcohol? What is the cost effectiveness of these "government gives you your addiction" treatments? And why not help them beat the addiction if they're going to spend the money anyway?
Giving homeless alcoholics a regular supply of booze may improve their health and their behavior, the Canadian Medical Association Journal said in a study published on Tuesday.

Seventeen homeless adults, all with long and chronic histories of alcohol abuse, were allowed up to 15 glasses of wine or sherry a day -- a glass an hour from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. -- in the Ottawa-based program, which started in 2002 and is continuing.

After an average of 16 months, the number of times participants got in trouble with the law had fallen 51 percent from the three years before they joined the program, and hospital emergency room visits were down 36 percent.

"Once we give a 'small amount' of alcohol and stabilize the addiction, we are able to provide health services that lead to a reduction in the unnecessary health services they were getting before," said Dr. Jeff Turnbull, one of the authors of the report.

"The alcohol gets them in, builds the trust and then we have the opportunity to treat other medical diseases... It's about improving the quality of life."

Three of the 17 participants died during the program, succumbing to alcohol-related illnesses that might have killed them anyway, the study said.

The report showed that participants in the program drank less than they did before signing up, and their sleep, hygiene, nutrition and health levels all improved.

The per capita cost of around C$771 ($660) a month was partially offset by monthly savings of C$96 a month in emergency services, C$150 in hospital care and C$201 in police services per person.

Turnbull said some of the people enrolled in the program had stopped drinking altogether, although that was not an option for many of the participants.

"We agree 100 percent that abstinence is the most appropriate route," he said. "But in this subset of people where abstinence has failed, there is still a need to provide care."
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Whadup Ukraine?
David Warren and some guy in the Telegraph seem to have quite opposite opinions on the Ukraine/Russia gas standoff. I'm leaning (very reluctantly) towards Norman Stone's position, if only in the vain hope that Russia's position really is understandable and that Russia really can be brought back into the Western orbit. A Russia in China and Iran's thrall can be of no use to anyone. However, my trust levels in Putin are at a colder temperature than absolute zero.
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